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Rating: 0 Willie Lee - 24 Jan 2008
Got postcard in mail: we get 2 free roundtrip tix and 3 day/2 nights at hotel for any major city in US, Canada, Mexico.  All for attending a 90 min presentation for Star Point Resorts, at the same 1450 114th Ave. address in Bellevue.  Many details that sounded legit: couldn't be on major holidays, had to be city served by International airlines, only good for one year, using carriers like United and Delta.  Verified some age and income parameters to qualify, lucky us!  They'll call back day before to verify our attendance.

Caller was woman named Stephanie, she put me through to another woman, Diane?, who verified I was going to be there.  My guess: it's her boss, checking to be sure Stephanie actually hooked me.

Phone number on the postcard was 800-413-5613.  They said they were working on behalf of Star Point.  My second guess:  It's the same outfit, but trying to maintain some semblance of distance between the marks (me) and the parent company.  They said I could call and confirm my attendance at 877-743-4336.

After checking the net, no way will I waste my time and gas driving to Bellevue.  Based on what's on the net about these guys, I figure the evening will be a high-pressure sell on a time-share add-on package, and that whether I buy or don't, I'll get a worthless "certificate" for the airfare and hotel deal, but will never actually get a trip anywhere except to Bellevue.  And that I can manage on my own.
Caller ID: n/a
Caller: didn't give name
Caller Type: Event Reminder / Notification
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Rating: 0 Jenn - 27 Jan 2008
Well, well, well.....now it's hit Canada, Kawartha Lakes area.  I got a call today...thick accent...bad connection (he tells me it's an internet connection) but I can't even catch all the stuff he's saying - already shifty....won 1 of 5 prizes, one Royal Carribbean cruise, or plasma TV, or trip to Orlando or Cancun-family package, or $1000.00 and another possible prize-can't remember that one...but it's guaranteed...I have to drive to Woodbridge, ON for 'gifting ceremony' w/dinner-will take about 20 mins, pick my envelope out of a bin and that's my prize but guaranteed one of those 5 prizes...2 pieces of ID (one w/ pic)...(he asks me if I know where Woodbride is and I reply that basically I do, where exactly and he asks if I know where Hwy. # 7 is and I say yes and he says well it's right there!  Right there?  Ya, ok, do you know how long a Highway is? Give me a break!!!!)  Then I'm handed off to talk to manager 'Mark Anthony'(Mark Anthony w/ an Indian or some kind of accent, ya - ok...)...and he is going to give me my Prize Claim # and I drill him with a million questions - I apparently filled out a ballot on July 17/07 (got the call today January 28/08) at a grocery store or Wallmart or gas station or Canadian Tire, etc. but they can't tell me exactly where.  So, I ask what info. was on the ballot.  He tells me Mr. & Mrs. <last name here>, and my address and our combined income (not correct)and our phone number and that I listed married.  

Well, first off even if I filled out a ballot and marked the married box, it wouldn't have been filled out Mr. & Mrs. anything.  We're common-law - 2 different last names - would NEVER put Mr. & Mrs. ANYTHING.  He tells me, "how could we know all of this if you didn't fill out a ballot?"  I said, "FROM THE PHONE BOOK!!!" He says, "we would get your income?"  I reply, "Whatever, you just make that up and then I either agree to confirm or correct the amount if I'm stupid!"  He says, "Ma'am, listen before you speak."  I reply, "Excuse me?  Are you being ignorant or flippant with me now?"

Anyhoo, I tell him that I work in a hospital and can't guarantee any time as there could be an emergency at work and that would keep me at work, unable to attend 'gifting ceremony'.  He tells me he needs a firm confirmation that I will attend.  I tell him that if it's MY prize then it's MY PRIZE.  So, how do I get it if an emergency keeps me from attending that TUESDAY night at 6:45.  He says then that would be an exceptional situation and the prize is of course still mine and he will call me back on Friday and have me set up with a Saturday or Sunday 'gifting ceremony' next week.  

He asks for my cell number (which I did not give)in case I'm not home and I tell him he can leave a message on my ans. mach. and I also would like his phone number.  He tells me they are listed with the Better Business Bureau and does give me this number...905-856-1747, Ext. #121.  We look it up through Phone Detective on the net and it lists a Hamilton # but that's it.  We look up the "National Gifting Center" or "NGC" and there is no company listed with that.  So, we check on here and lo and behold, the states were hit with this "promotion" first.

It's all the same...sponsors were Ford, Ramada Inn/Hilton, Royal Carribbean, etc....same format for claiming prize...everything!

Bottom line - not going to drive to Woodbride to be scammed into a sit down hard sell marketing promotion to get some invalid certificate or bogus cruise!

BE WARNED - Nothing is for free!!!!!
Caller ID: 1-404-0000-0002
Caller: National Gifting Center
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Rating: 0 Suri - 6 Jun 2008
Just hung up on the same 'group' that all of you have been contacted by --   GEO Tours or NGC. Same guy with East Indian accent -- didn't ask or want his name.  

First they called our house using my first initial which I would never use on a ballot trying to convince my husband that I had won the grand prize.  After he got on the phone with a 'senior' manager who couldn't tell him where I may have filled out this mystery ballot, he called me to see if it was real or bogus (I have actually won a trip before through a contest).  He then told the guy, who sounds like the same guy that all of you have spoken with, to call me at my business, which he did.  Gives the address of where we are supposed to come to retrieve prize between certain times:  51 International Blvd in Etobicoke which is a burb in Toronto. Phone number is 905-695-4097.  When I asked why they couldn't fax me a copy of my ballot so that I could confirm, all he could say was that I filled it out on December 18th -- not possible since I wouldn't have been going to any mall let alone a Wal-Mart, where he said it might have been filled out (I don't shop there ever) because I would have been too busy in my own store! I finally hung up on him since he wouldn't verify my ballot by faxing to me so that I could see my handwriting.

Why do these people waste our time and how stupid do they think we all are???
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Rating: 0 sano - 13 Feb 2008
Same thing happened to me as those above. Star Points Resorts in Bellevue, 3-day, two night stay anywhere in the US-MEX-CAN, no strings attached etc. etc.  The caller's name was Bob.  This call came just the day before yesterday, so these people are still scamming!  Needless to say we didn't go to the 1.5hr meeting about time-shares.  When the company called the first time their number came up as private, but the number "Bob" told us to call was 1-888-386-6105.
Caller ID: 1-888-386-6105
Caller Type: Telemarketer
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Rating: 0 joy - 29 Jun 2008
THE SAME THING JUST HAPPENED TO ME!! Some guy with an Indian accent called me with a very bad connection, saying that I had filled a ballot and was eligible to win one out of five prizes. He said that I checked a box saying I was 27 to 70 years old on my coupon.  I responded by saing that I was actually just 24 to which he responded, "okay ma'am just say you are 27 to the receptionist".  He listed off all the prizes.
He also assumed and asked me what my yearly earnings were...UGH!  
Then asked me if I was married.  I said no.  He said do you have a boyfriend, I said yes.  Apparently I checked off the box that said I was married on the coupon!?? I was starting to get suspicious...they asked when me and my boyfriend would pick up the prize together. I said maybe in a week.  He then said no that is too late because there is a time limit to get your prize....WHAT?! So then he said to go to Woodbridge as a single lady and would have to say that I was 30 years old and to bring my credit card as one of my ids.  I would have to sit through 90 minutes of dinner and pick up my prize.  He said I could only go alone.  He gave me my confirmation number and I hung up.  Another person called 3 minutes later asking to make sure I will come on Tuesday.  I said maybe.  He very strongly emphasized that I needed to confirm now because he was arranging seats for the dinner.  I asked him why I could not bring anyone.  I said I wasn't going to go by myself.  He then asks me if I will bring a girl or a guy! He again stresses that I show up on time and on that date, and we hang up.  During this time I find this forum....and I'm definitely glad I did.  There is NO way I am going.
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Rating: +2 CJC - 15 Feb 2008
Did some private investigating: Info about the Gift Centre as they claim:
Company Management:
Mr. Damien Radulescu
Original Business Start Date: January 1994
Principal: Mr. John Carroll, President
Customer Contact: Mr. David Ouellette, Secretary/treasurer –
(905) 856-1747 or damian@vacationstore.ca  
Email Address: damian@vacationstore.ca  
TOB Classification: Travel Clubs
BBB Membership: This Company is NOT a member.
The Vacation Store, 216 Chrislea Rd.Suite 202 Woodbridge, ON L4L 8S5
Telephone: (905) 856-1747 Fax: (905) 264-2453
NOT ANY PART OF BBB, or the companies they say they represent! I have reported them to BBB.
Caller ID: Unknown
Caller: Gift Centre
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Rating: +1 Ger - 28 Feb 2008
Got the postcard today. Called - Shouldn't have! Meeting is in Bellevue, Conifer Bldg. #205.  Looked them up in the BBB and found there are complaints and they are not in good standing with the BBB. I'm not going to the meeting.
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Rating: +1 John+Hanna - 14 Mar 2008
The same scam is being ran in Toronto, we just received a call not much different from the descriptions given previously.  He said that we filled in a ballot on the 13th of December and listed off bunch of different stores where it could have been.  When I asked him what names was on the ballot he was not able to answer.  He said that we were guaranteed one of three prices; 2008 Ford Explorer (or $45,000), 27" plasma TV or 3 night stay in any of 30 North American destinations.  Tried really hard to set up a time to come in and attended the gifting ceremony - would take no longer than 90 minutes.  Address he gave us was Building #51, International Boulevard in Etobicoke.  The call kept getting cut off and he would call back right away and ask whether I had hung up on him, he then proceeded to blame Rogers for poor phone lines. He also said that we had to bring two pieces of ID, and our gift claim number.  I spoke to one guys who introduced himself with two different names, Peter and Robert, when the phone connection died.  From his accent it was very obvious that it was the same person.  Please do not fall for this and I am going to call him back now and give him serious sh*t for being full of sh*t!!!  The number he gave us is 416-342-1547 and also at one point gave us extension 143.  I am also going to call them next week to tell them they won a million dollars!!!!!!
Caller ID: 416-342-1547
Caller: National Gifting Centre
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Rating: +1 fedup - 2 Apr 2008
Hi,

This is still going on in oakville - I just got a call ten minutes ago. I decided to have a little fun with the caller because I have a PhD in Social Psychology and my research is in the area of persuasion... needless to say, by the end of the conversation, he was a little frustrated. I feel badly for the actual callers because i'm sure most of them hate their jobs and are just trying to make some money for their families... but still, I couldn't resist. Hopefully they won't be calling back any time soon. I say we all join together and call the 'real number' (if it is real) given in the above post and start telling them that they won something. Maybe send some faxes too :) actually... on second thought... the call tonight already wasted too much of my precious time, so i'll leave it be :)
Caller: National Gifting Centre
Caller Type: Telemarketer
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Rating: +1 annoyed - 5 Apr 2008
I got this call in Richmond Hill, this guy had an accent and probably got it  our names/number off the phone book. Sounds like a scam.
Caller: TVS
Caller Type: Telemarketer
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Rating: +1 samehere - 21 Apr 2008
same thing happened to me today, the address they gave me was:
60 Westwilmont ST. unt#1 Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada. "Manager" was Kevin Marshal (with Indian/Pakistani accent!!LOL gandoo). contact#: 416-628-9766

again: nothing is free, at least not anymore! so be aware!

i'm not planning to go, to waste time and get scammed!

caller ID: 880-077-1111
Caller ID: 880-077-1111
Caller: National Canadian Gifting Center
Caller Type: Telemarketer
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Rating: +1 Maarifa - 10 May 2008
Recieved a call on 05/09/2008 around 6.65pm,the caller with heavy "Indian" accent.Introduced himself as Brian Caster,the manager for national gift center,representing Bellevue Shopping Center. And I was selected to recieve a gift from Star Point Resort,1450 114th Ave Se Bellevue,WA 98008. "3nights and 2days" package in some countries.When I him asked a couple of things he hungup.
Caller ID: 1-905-695-9047
Caller: ST. JOHN'S NL
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Rating: +1 rossifume - 10 May 2008
found my way to this page by searching for info on the "Star Points Resorts" at 114th ave in Bellevue. Anyway since it seems like everyone here just wrote these guys off I thought I'd share my experience of actually going to the presentation.

like others here I was offered the airfare + 2 nights vacation for attending a 90 minute presentation. Showed up on time, but they were still "closing" people from the previous presentation so everything started 30 mins late. The office is .. sketchy. It has a very fly-by-night look. And even though the reservation email said Star Points Resort, once we got there it was clear we were being sold on Geo Holidays.

Anyway, I would hardly describe this as high-pressure/hard sell. Everything they say sounds reasonable, and they always treated us well. Sure, they pulled the old "amazing deal if you buy now", but other than that they relied on their product selling itself. I know quite a few of the tactics  used in the hard sell and these guys were not using them. Once we had decided, and told them that our answer was "no", that was the end of the conversation. I mean, I won't even buy a book without first borrowing it from the library, of course I'm not going to buy a timeshare after just a 90 minute presentation.

As for the "prize", you get a brochure with a form you have to fill in and send with a $100 deposit. You can only travel on Tuesday. You provide them with destinations and travel dates you can make, and they mail you back the tickets/reservations they choose. So sure, it's very restrictive, but hey, IT WAS FREE. Oh- and if you're curious, the company arranging the free travel is Worldwide Travel Center, in Deerfield Beach, FL. They don't exactly have a stellar reputation, from what I've read on the internet.

A final note- I've noticed a lot of the "IM A VICTUM" and "I WAS SCAMMED" forum posts I've seen while researching this are poorly written, and have lots of spelling mistakes. They are also very vindictive while being vague on details. My guess is they couldn't resist the sales pitch and made a financial commitment they're now regretting. Honestly, I think it's their own fault. Anyone who makes a financial commitment worth thousands of dollars after a 90 minute presentation is a fool, and only has themselves to blame.
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Rating: +1 Ann - 2 Jun 2008
Is this a real scam?  Was it worth it?
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Rating: +1 Shar D. - 24 Jun 2008
I'm throwing my two cents worth in on this Star Points thing in Bellevue Washington. We got a postcard in the mail today saying we could get free airfare (round trip) for 2 anywhere in the USA as well as a 3 days 2 nights in a hotel; my husband said why not? Listen to their presentation then ask for the airline voucher and go! So we booked but after reading all this I will probably cancel. I see someone else had the same deal and they asked for a $100 deposit. Imagine if 100 people bit and all paid the $100 deposit! That's a pretty good amount of money they pocket! I think their presentation will have to start without us this Saturday!! Thank you to all of you; maybe another scammer will bite the dust.
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Rating: +1 MamaShima - 11 May 2008
Got a call today from man with a similar South Asian accent.   Also claiming as the National Gifting Center.  Manager name was Jerry Stevens, (716) 524-9957, x211.  Prizes: $2,500 cash, 6 days, 5 nights FL with $1,000 internet shopping card. 32" flat screen tv and a Lincoln Navagator.
Booksed my time to attend a presentation and collect prize at 1935 Shermer Rd, Suite 100, Northbrook IL 60062.  He also said something about the United Network.  The connection was bad so I couldn't here it.  I gave a fake cell number for call back so they won't keep bugging me.  We'll see if I can make it or not.
Caller: National Gifting Center
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Rating: +1 suri - 6 Jun 2008
Sorry, I posted this off an earlier post. Today is Friday, June 6th, 2008

Just hung up on the same 'group' that all of you have been contacted by --   GEO Tours or NGC. Same guy with East Indian accent -- didn't ask or want his name.  

First they called our house using my first initial which I would never use on a ballot trying to convince my husband that I had won the grand prize.  After he got on the phone with a 'senior' manager who couldn't tell him where I may have filled out this mystery ballot, he called me to see if it was real or bogus (I have actually won a trip before through a contest).  He then told the guy, who sounds like the same guy that all of you have spoken with, to call me at my business, which he did.  Gives the address of where we are supposed to come to retrieve prize between certain times:  51 International Blvd in Etobicoke which is a burb in Toronto. Phone number is 905-695-4097.  When I asked why they couldn't fax me a copy of my ballot so that I could confirm, all he could say was that I filled it out on December 18th -- not possible since I wouldn't have been going to any mall let alone a Wal-Mart, where he said it might have been filled out (I don't shop there ever) because I would have been too busy in my own store! I finally hung up on him since he wouldn't verify my ballot by faxing to me so that I could see my handwriting.

Why do these people waste our time and how stupid do they think we all are???
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Rating: +1 Johnsky - 13 Jun 2008
They're calling the GTA now aswell.
905 695 4097
Caller ID failed to get a name : Unknown.

Heavy accent.
Claimed my fiance had filled out a ballot of some type, and I had an option of 5 prizes.
-25,000 in cash.
-Trip to Cancun.
-Ford Explorer.
... can't remember the other two.

They actually called twice.
The first time they attempted to verify my age incorrectly, and attempted to verify my marital status incorrectly.
When he realised the mistake, he simply hung up.

Second call (same day) : I informed them that if it is my fiance who filled out the ballot then it should be her they speak to. The heavy accented caller then proceeded to ask "Is there anyone else there who has access to her account?"
That was the final straw. I asked for him to repeat himself sternly, and, like the previous caller, he hung up.

Accent : Heavy Eastern accent. Possibly pakistani or indian, the phone line was too weak to get a clearer impression.

They don't have a very solid script. You will find they are unsure of what they are saying, you can easily catch them off guard by asking a few simple questions.
They can't be very intelligent, as they can't retort to questions posed, they simply lock up and hang up.

I didn't get far enough with them to determine if they wanted me to meet them anywhere, but the second caller clearly intended to access financial accounts.
Caller: National Gift Center
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Rating: +1 Johnsky - 13 Jun 2008
Sorry, previous posted phone number should read : 905 695 9047
Apologies for the incorrect number.
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Rating: +1 V_V - 28 Jul 2008
Same Indian Accent guy called us on July 28 saying you have won a coupon for some hotel stays + plasma TV which does not make any sense at all.  Hardly know what he is trying to say and he repeat a lot of stuffs that I did not ask for.  

He calls himself Alex.
Caller ID: 905-695-9047
Caller: Geo Enterprise
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