269-768-2240

they call and all the time and leave no message!

They call with some message about a credit card account. I don't have any credit cards!!!!!!! Another random call center pain.

Calls to speak to me about my AMEX account.  I don't have an AMEX, nor have I ever had.  I've never even applied for one!  GRRRR  pain in my ass!

caller identified themselves as fraternal order of police and asked if I would donate.  I said I would but not over the phone.  a recording came on and the call was disconnected.

called from 1-269-768-2240 rang twice and hung up no message left.

Said they were the fraternal order of police and I wasn't in trouble but would I , I told them i was not interested and hung up on them

Called yesterday around 12:30pm.  Left no message left but caller id says "TN REMOVAL SYS".  Seriously doubt it's for Michigan FOP.  Forwarded info to State Police Department.

Fraternal Order of Police eh? It sounds like one of those scams where they act like they`re the police to get you to send them money to run a ad in their little stinking newspaper.As long as 10% goes to the charity it`s legal if I remember correctly.

I remember guys 20 years ago making close to a 100k a year doing it.
HANG UP!

called-no message

They call and leave no message

At 5:33pm a call showed up on caller ID as "MI FOP".  No message left

White male (sounded like)ask to speak with...I said "wrong number".
Then came on the Web and sure enough it is a scam call.

Left no message

Received call from asked for Don then phone went dead, checked caller id

Again said he was from the Fraternal Order of Police. When I said I would not give over the phone, he offered to send me something. He was pushy, and I said to take my number off his list

This phone number is calling to do fund raising for the Michigan Fraternal Order of Police. I have called the number.  It directs you to a customer service department that can answer questions, help you donate, or anything else related to the FOP. Also, there’s information on www.mifop.com. Plus, you can contact them there with any questions or requests.
The FOP is doing a lot of really great things for Michigan police officers and the people that call are trying to help them raise money so they can do even more good.

The call came in as MI FOP - range twice - when I picked up - no one was on the line - caller ID is showing as 231-224-2083

Call from 269-768-2303; recording answered that it was from the Michigan Fraternal Order of Police, soliciting support for our local officers.

The call just about every day sometimes 2 or 3 times. Number comes up as 768 2449. Figured it was a scam. Don't they know that a lot of people in Michigan are out of work and broke?

If they can call you and use these techniques on you, we have a right to use them back on them but telling you what the techniques are so you can spot them too.

These ethically challenged individuals need to take a look at this story about spoofing caller id numbers. The part they dont understand is in the case of spoofing a phone number in another state to employ a local connection to your local police department is a deceptive practice especially when in combination with a local mail drop to further mislead the public. Hey one wants to give local and you just ask them  this

These people get local numbers for virtually anywhere through websites such as skype. The numbers can even have your same area code and prefix as you. Buying skype numbers when you could just call using your normal local exchange in and of itself is deceptive because they are doing it to imply a local connection. If they were not trying to trick you into thinking they are local to you or from your local police then they would call you from their 727 area code, It is an AUTOMATIC DECEPTIVE ACT and PRACTICE and it is actually taking money away from your real local charities and by default raising their cost to raise funds and making them look less attractive to you the donor.

That is a very dangerous technique because it flouts the Sherman Act and in North Carolina it violates NC GS 75.1, NC GS 14-100 and depending on what they spent the money on, it might even violate NC GS 14.92

In North Carolina all liget groups are being damaged by the money drain that these groups are causing. It shrinks the available pool of money for them to tap in THEIR local areas and ALL have a duty to sue each and every other charity that is causing damage to their donors. Not to mention that some of these groups get government funding to run their program and that being the case THE GOVERNMENT has to dole out more taxpayer money then they would if these groups did not exist.

So they are robbing donors by misrepresenting a local connection

They are robbing every charity that operates legally because they have to compete with fraudulent techniques they legally can not use to attract donations. Because the groups using them are breaking the law.



http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/69791.html?wlc=1277580456


The people calling you are professional fundraisers no matter what they tell you. The problem is that some of these charities have acquired their own fundraising people, but they acquired them from a pool of "phone pros" that have been highly trained through trial and error over many years in the art of getting into your head and your wallet at the same time.

Its the techniques that need to end. Most of the people calling you are just trying to make a living and do this for 40 hours a week, they have no idea what these techniques are or how effective they are, but we know how effective they are because we invented them, but they were designed to help charities but are being used now to manipulate donors.

Every time we see these techniques being used we are gong to report it and very soon we will have a database of everyone of their phone numbers. They will not be able to hide from us anymore, or from us exposing them to you, the people who want to make a donation and do something good for their community, but these people and stuck themselves between you and the charity.
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99% of the charities have no idea it is being done to them or are just desperate for cash.

We need everyone of you to help us by leaving detailed complaints on this and other boards under the numbers that call you. Also, search out the other sites that have this number listed. Once the database of numbers they use is complete it will eliminate the type of fraud that badgefraud.org goes after and we will slip to the background to monitor all these fundraisers. Some of these fundraiser will get huge fines for some of the calls that are already being complained about on these boards. One, Community Support that got sued during operation false charity last year, I think gets a 40,000 dollar fine for every violation that is declared fraudulent. They need to realize that the techniques are unusable and illegal, and end their use.

Fundraising over the phone can and is done by the fast majority of charities ethically and legally and these people need to get on board or we are going to drop them either in the poor house or a prison.


From the Police Protective Fund

http://www.policeprotectivefund.org/police-chaplain-project/

Officer Down Foundation

http://officerdownfoundation.squarespace.com/crisis-chaplain/

Are you ready? Here comes your Eureka moment.

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/phil-leconte-P4890550.aspx

Its all connected to this California lawsuit that started during "Operation False Charity" they set this up so they could keep raising money with out all that bad press that that is in the name of Police Protective Fund

http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n ... ce_officers.pdf

They got sued by so many states that they set up this new scam using all the same stuff, right down to the sales techniques that many states have told them are deceptive. I am an expert in those same techniques.

Paul Kutac and June Mellon were not sued so they are the ones that set it up. They use this boiler room out of Hudson FL

Here is one of their employee's a few weeks ago http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2010/05/wor ... er-a-tooth.html


There is even a site detailing it here http://pfcl.org/Officer_Down_Foundation.html

That should be all anyone needs, just dont give them any money and call your local police sheriff and local media and tell them someone tried to scam you from this group in the name of Fallen Officers so they can issue a press release so your neighbors dont fall victim to these clowns