510-924-1676

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keeps calling y cell and doesn't leave a message

Calls twice a day and doesn't leave a message.

called home line tonight 7:19 PM EST ...hung up when I answered.  I did *69 to get the number

These people ( or computer ) are relentless. They have called 147 times and never leave a message. I stopped answering the phone some time back when there was no one there. They call at all hours.
What they are doing is finding out when you are most likely to be home by when you answer the phone during the day or night. I have the capability to have my phone not ring to their phone number. When I call their number, It just rings and rings.
It would be nice to know who they are collecting for. Maybe I would like to use them sometime if I need to harass someone for no point at all ( since they never are on the line when I answered or when I called their number ).
Also folks, If you DO get a body on the line, DO DOT give them ANY INFORMATION over the phone. Have them send you a registered letter with their name and address on the outside of the letter as well as on the letterhead. The body of the letter MUST explain who they are and who they are collecting for. There should also be a reference to your debtors account number as well as an account number that their company has assigned to your file.
If they are not willing to provide any of this information, ignore them and report them to the Better Business Bureau.
Be prepared to give all of the information you have collected up until your contact with them ( the BBB ).
I hope this helps.

Hey all,

Just wanted to add this piece of information. A look at their home page on the web looks pretty friendly to me :}
Or is it just a wolf in sheeps clothing.

I also wanted to say that I have great credit and owe no one ( except mortgage and auto's ) and those I do owe, are paid on time and some even have account credits.

http://www.icsystem.com/

What I don't understand is that they call me with another number and DO leave a message (866) 903-1001, but when they call with this one (510) 924-1676, the phone barely rings -- like 1 1/2 rings and stops, with NO voice mail. It appears to be the same company though.

I hear you this # calls my cell phone at least 15 times or more a day I too dont answer if I dont know the # but now my cell phone company is charging for these calls so now I must go thru red tape to get them to stop !

IC Systems is a collections agency for Washington Mutual credit cards.

They call on the following numbers (and more):

214-233-7251
347-584-2059
410-968-7953
651-204-1313
813-464-2479
651-204-1374
510-924-1676

And others... I've never answered the phone, but I can attest to the fact that they verge on harrassment just by the sheer number of phone calls (no less than 4 calls per day, sometimes as high as 8 -- especially on weekends).

I'm the office supervisor @ my job I answer the phones also & these people call everyday several times for one of my employees. I've given them her break times but they refuse to call during those times so finally today i was fed up & asked that they either call during one of the 3 break times or stop calling & find another way to reach her, this is a business its ridiclious they have to call as much as they do everyday. The lady on the phone told me she'd continue calling when she feels like it & I need to get used to it and hung up in my face!! I didnt hear the company she was calling with so i pressed *69 got the # googled it & found this site. I am furious and after seeing that i'm not the only person who has problems with them makes me sick. They need to be stopped or phones disconnected!!!!

This number has called my phone 98 times and I know this is illegal to call more than two times in a day. Here is a VERY helpful bit of information I did not know about.

Debt buyers, private companies that purchase consumer debt for pennies on the dollar and then do whatever it takes to collect that debt, have taken telephone harassment to new levels. Calling a debtor’s coworkers and neighbors is a common practice; however, it is against the law and you can fight back!
Today’s telephone harassment practices

Telephone harassment by debt buyers is very common, according to Steve Recordon, an attorney from San Diego, California whose firm represents individuals who have been sued or harassed by debt buyers. In a recent interview, he explained the kinds of tactics they use:

What happens is the debt buyer has a number of people in a room where they may have little booths and 20 or 30 individuals making phone calls. These individuals have certain goals that they have to reach. It's a lot like what you would see if you went into a used car lot where the sales people have a morning meeting or a door-to-door vacuum cleaning sales place where they have pep rallies.

The collectors get hyped up, set goals for the day, the number of phone calls they want to make and the number of dollars and commitments they want to get over the telephone. This is where the harassment can be very, very abusive. For example, they may phone the debtor's parents, impersonate a government prosecutor and request the parent to get the debtor to call them about a criminal investigation. None of that's true, but that's just one of many, many tactics they use.

I had a client yesterday who said that the debt buyer called and said that they were sending a marshal over to take her car. Although that’s absolutely illegal and can’t happen – guess what? It caused her to go to her dad and have him pay $1,700 on a debt that she didn't owe. So it's very, very effective.

Block and office parties: embarrassing & illegal

The industry has coined a couple of terms that debt buyer collectors use – the block party and the office party. All these tactics are illegal and violate the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), California’s Rosenthal statute (California’s version of the federal law) and can result in other individual torts like intentional infliction of emotional distress. Recordon explained what each of the terms means:

Block party. A block party is when a debt buyer may call five or ten of the debtor’s neighbors. Through a program, they're able to get the phone numbers and names of neighbors, call them and tell them things like, ‘Hey Joe, your neighbor at such-and-such an address, we've been trying to get a hold of him because we have some really important information for him. Could you go over and have him call us?’ They’ll call around the neighborhood and all these concerned neighbors will run over to Joe's house and tell him that he has to call this person because something horrible is going on.
Office party. An office party is very similar. By making phone calls, the debt buyer is able to find out the name of the individual's employer and other employees that he works with. They’ll call the other employees in the office and make up another similar story such as he’ll lose his car if he doesn’t call or that the police may come and arrest him. Now, all of a sudden, everybody at the office knows there's a problem. The debt collector may make up some fictitious problem, but may just disclose the fact that there's a debt that's unpaid.
He says that either one is embarrassing, either one violates the statutes and either one is actionable.

Increasing levels of aggression

We asked Recordon whether the level of aggression increases as the debt is sold to subsequent debt buyers. Without hesitation, he answered, “That is exactly what happens,” and explained:

They even become more aggressive. Let’s say Debt Buyer No. 1 just bought an account. It's brand new. Debt Buyer No. 1 will start sending letters and calling – the first letters and calls may actually be fairly pleasant. However, if the debt remains unpaid, then it’s going to get more aggressive. I've seen situations where, eventually, they go down to the debtor's house, bang on the door (and this may be at midnight, or 1:00 a.m. in the morning) and yell at them threatening to wake up the whole neighborhood if they don't come to the door and pay the debt. Debt Buyer No. 5 knows that Debt Buyers 1, 2, 3, and 4 couldn't collect and that the only way they're going collect is by using extreme measures.

Collectors cannot call debtors’ cell phones without permission

Calling cell phones without permission is one of those measures. Recordon says that debt collectors absolutely cannot call a debtor on his or her cell phone without permission. He told us, “If the debtor did not give the collector his or her cell number and permission to call it, that debtor needs to call me right away. The collector has violated both federal and state laws and the debtor will be able to collect money damages from the collector.”

This phone number keeps calling my work phone (directly to my desk!) several times per day. When I answer, nobody is there. I've had creditors call my work # before b/c it's recycled and whoever had it before me had some issues.

I wish they would stop calling!!!