516-453-9112

This person called did not idenify himself, he said  I better call him or my attorney better call him.

I received a call from this guy. He said his name was Harry Ferguson and that he was calling from the Brown Law Office. He stated that I owed $1129.00 from a pay advance with Ameri Cash Advance which is ridiculous because I never borrowed that much money. He then stated that I was being charged with federal charges and would have to settle out of court paying $1129.00 or go to court to pay up to $18,000. I realized this was a scam because I attempted to call this guy back and the phone number was busy. Don't trust this guy Harry Ferguson. It is a scam.

This is a scam. This Guy said he was Larry. Brown made thee mistake of leaving me a message saying I owed money that I didn't get from any bank. He also threatened my kids In the message. When I call this person back and I inform him that I got his and I don't do well with idol threats and that I was going to track his [***] down and come to where ever his office is to see whatever low suit/paper work he had on my case because I'm extremely upset by the message he left me. He called me a [***] and hung up on me. Tried to call back he blocked my number. DON'T TRUST THIS! !!! THIS IS A SCAM!!!!!

Please contact the New York State Attorney General's office at 212-416-8750 and ask to file a criminal complaint.

The subject provided a false New York State Bar license number and false New York State Collection Agency license number.  The registered telephone is owned by Peerless Networks in Chicago, IL.  Their fraud division has been notified and that their information has been provided to the Ohio and New York State Attorney General's offices.

Please contact the New York State Attorney General's office at 212-416-8750 and ask to file a criminal complaint.

The subject provided a false New York State Bar license number and false New York State Collection Agency license number.  The registered telephone is owned by Peerless Networks in Chicago, IL.  Their fraud division has been notified and that their information has been provided to the Ohio and New York State Attorney General's offices.
Caller: Brown Law Office
Call Type: Debt Collector

Please contact the New York State Attorney General's office at 212-416-8750 and ask to file a criminal complaint.

The subject provided a false New York State Bar license number and false New York State Collection Agency license number.  The registered telephone is owned by Peerless Networks in Chicago, IL.  Their fraud division has been notified and that their information has been provided to the Ohio and New York State Attorney General's offices.
Caller: Brown Law Office
Call Type: Debt Collector

I got a call last week by the same guy harry ferguson who also claimed he was eric carter at one point of the conversation. He had left me a long message stating that I or my attorny needed to call him right away and I didnt call he wishes me the best of luck. When I called back the guy acted like I was dumb and stated this is harry ferguson and I was like no this is eric carter I then asked him why he was calling me he stated I was being sued and charged with 3 counts of criminal charges.1st count failure to pay account 2nd fraud and 3rd theft. I began to freak out and didnt know what to do because he also stated that he was calling my work and I am going to be picked up and go to jail yeah I know I should have known right there but these scam artist are ones to make you believe at first. My coworker asked me for their number and she stated that it was a huge scam but i told her that they had my address my maiden name not my new last name my last four of my social and bank info which I have only paid bills online nothing else now my old account that was supposed to be closed is still open and overdrafted because they had several payday places put money in my account then took it right back out in bigger lump summs. I am not racist but these people really made me have a different point of view on people from india. Do not fall for what this guy says the best thing to do is file a police report as ID theft and then give the case number to your bank they have to give you your money back if something happens to your account and close all bank accounts open them with someone else and put protection on your accounts.

yes i have had a call from this number basically saying the same thing you guys have what must i do about it i have filed a police report on it

I just Finished having a call form this same guy, Harry Fuergeson stating the same exact thing and that he  was going to cal my job and all sort of things. He actually send me an email with paymnet options and everything and stated that had to pay today 890 which does not make any since at all since i have never had a loan for that. He stated that i should call him back with my decision.. WHAT SHOULD I TELL HIM, TO GET HIM TO STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME??? Help??

Well I just got the same call.  Guy tried to tell me I was going to be sued in court tomorrow.  Cops were coming to pick me up at work tomorrow.  My boss has been notified of my pending arrest.  I hadn't even gotten this loan.  I had inquired online and then, right before the electronic signature, I backed out and decided not to do it.  When I told him that he said I was lying and was going to spend time in jail.  I told him this was obviously a scam and laughed.  He told me that I would be laughing when I was arrested tomorrow.  Contact the NY Attorney General's office with this number and then just go about your business.  Nothing to worry about.

I got the same call do not let this guy scare you he sound Australian and says he is Harry Ferguson.

I got the same call from a george brown, telling me to have his attorney call him about money i owed him, the guy could barly speak english. then he had the nerve to wish me good luck as the matter unfolded on me. i didnt get a call from this exact number but it was (513)257-6411.

Yes, I got the exact same call stating the exact same things. I told him nothing about any of this was accurate and he wasnt getting a pennt. I notified the police and am in the process of pressing charges.

Wow- I just received the exact same call and he said his name was Eric Carter- how do they get your contact information. His english was broken- and he did say - like the others- as the mater unfloded on me- When I call back the line is busy- and it hangs up! I think I am going to notify the police as well. thanks for the post

I also received the same message. This guy has been calling me for days, with different names, stating I owed American Cash Express money for a loan I borrowed. He left a rude nasty message today which upset me. I called him and asked what was this concerning. He proceeded to tell me all the lies about taking me to court. Then he hung up on me. I waited for about 2 hours and called him again and told him not to call me again. I was going to call the police and have him arrested. Then I told him I was going to take him to court for harassment. I don't think he liked the shoe being on the other foot. He hasn't called me again.

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Call the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and your State Police. When they call back, tell them that you are aware they are running an extortion ring, have notified the authorities and hang up.

Kudos to "Sam" for giving the most intelligent and informative posts on this scam. READ, Bookmark and use as needed:

https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-631-456-4041/2

I have been receiving phone calls from this group since late April / early May of 2010.  There is a good chance that they also attempted to contact me roughly two years ago before I entered into Chapter 7 Bankruptcy protection, as I faintly remember hearing the same script more or less.

As others have stated, the callers are difficult to understand.  Generally speaking their command of the English language is quite poor and their accents are hard to follow. At times they will get certain words or phrases mixed up.  It would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that they had:

a) Your SSN
b) Your home address
c) Your work address
d) Your banking info
e) Names, numbers and potentially the addresses of "references"
f) A complete and total lack of ethics and a basic understanding of the FDCPA.  

I have personally filed reports with the following agencies, often with limited (if any) success:

Local Police
my state's Attorney General's office
FTC
FBI
Secret Service

Generally the local police won't be able to help much.  The callers are using a combination of prepaid cell phones and VoIP, making them difficult to trace.  Also at their disposal are various spoofing tactics being implemented to catch people off guard - meaning the number that appears on your Caller ID isn't the number that is calling you for starters.  Without gaining a subpoena for the billing information for the numbers in question, the local police won't be able to get very far.  

My state's Attorney General's office couldn't offer much assistance either.  I received a form letter in the mail that my complaint was received and I would be contacted if they needed additional info.  It was more or less the same information I obtained from the FTC.  They each advised me not to give the individuals over the phone any account information or to authorize payment.  That's just common sense, though.

I never got anything from the FBI, either.  There is a good chance that since I haven't suffered a monetary loss that my concerns are low on the totem pole.  I hate to say this, but that is truly the case. Unless you were in the hole for a $1,000 (or more) you aren't going to get much more than "sorry to hear about your situation, change your phone number and move on".  I seemed to get some activity from the Secret Service.  I spoke with agent Doug Zloto. (Google him, referencing threads like these plus his name and you'll find his number also)  He seemed to care a bit more than the average person, but after giving him access to my Google Voice account, there has been no further activity from him that I'm aware of.

In the meantime I changed the wireless number the fraudsters had access to, they have no direct way to get a hold of me.  (Calls at work have ceased for some reason)  That in turn resulted in my "references" getting phone calls from the crooks.  Here is a word of caution for women that have been getting these calls - don't say anything and just hang up.  The callers are quite abusive towards women callers.  Why?  Possibly the culture.  If they are Indian / Pakistani, women are second class citizens there.  You will be treated like garbage.  This happened to a family member when she was trying her best to be extremely nice over the phone.  

The callers currently attempt to reach me through the female family member and an unused Google Voice number that they managed to find of mine.  I keep the Google Voice number open because, well, I can't delete it yet.  So, about every day, 4-5 times a day for the last week, I get voice messages from them.  It's usually just two full messages though - the other calls are broken up with static or they are attempts to read the script until the callers then screw up.  Really, they are that adamant on getting the script 100% that they will hang up mid-sentence and call back 30 seconds later.  

At this point it's a stalemate with these people.  

1) While they have the lion's share of information on us, they can't really do anything with this information.  

Why?  Think about it.

If they were to ever take funds out of your account without authorization, it's fraud and worse (for them) it is traceable.  That's why they won't do anything with your information, contrary to threats they make.  The money from your account has to go somewhere, and either your bank or a law enforcement agency can determine where the money was routed.  As a bank customer you are protected - you'd get the stolen money back in your account after 7-10 business days and the bank would be temporarily out the funds deducted from your account while they conducted their investigation.  The bank, along with law enforcement, would track down the fraudsters and apprehend them.  The fraudsters do not want to incur the wrath of a bank, just extort money out of you.  Remember that.    

Your authorization would absolve the bank from any and all liability, leaving you holding the bag.  Never give them authorization for anything - for all you know the call is recorded.  

2) We have no information on them.

Seriously, this has been going on at least since 2008, possibly longer than that based on some accounts. (6 years??? Holy crap!)  You would think someone would have slipped up by now.  Sadly, they haven't.  We can continue to grow our own intel on them and compile lists of aliases and phone numbers used, along with paraphrases of scripts used in order to educate other victims.  I'm actually putting together a site now in the meantime where I'll host audio files and lists of previous numbers used.  800notes.com is great, but no two calls are exactly the same.  It would be nice to have a site dedicated to the scam and how it works.

So that's where I am with these calls.  I have suffered no monetary loss, though I have been harassed both at home and at work.  They threaten me with arrest and other "fun" things in order to get me convinced I have to pay them.  My friends and family have been targeted and local and federal law enforcement agencies haven't been able to put a stop to things.  So, it is what it is.  I am out a wireless phone number I had for roughly six years, which is terrible since I was using that line when looking for a new job.  

Whenever I'm bored I spoof my number using Google Voice and return the calls.  I've called them the poster children for birth control, etc.  Basically a lot of nasty things that I'm sure the moderators here wouldn't appreciate me repeating - bottom line nothing nice.  I always like to close saying their parents must be real proud knowing their sons weren't man enough to get real jobs.  That usually gets a decent response.  

Way I see it - they can't do anything to me. (Despite a threat yesterday that my life would be f'ed up)  They can threaten all they want but my credit is frozen and my bank information has changed.  I've changed the only number they could really access me directly on and I've instructed my employer and family to not answer the calls.  I just call and harass them now when I find a few extra seconds.  What's the worst they can do to me?  Charge me with harassment?  

Nope, then they would have to identify themselves.

Oh, and don't bother contacting Cashnet USA about the calls.  Their "fraud" department could honestly care less.  Their "investigation" is merely a means of buerocratic CYA.  I would even be surprised at this point if actual law enforcement is involved in any shape, way or form at this time.  

There is a good chance that the information these crooks have on us was obtained from Cashnet USA - either from a database leak or from a collector that was once authorized by Cashnet to call on delinquent customers.  The other chance is they have access to Teletrack, and pulled all of our information off of there.

https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3

For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan.  The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:

United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General’s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)

You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse.  In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt.  Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.  

Who are they?

In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:

David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida  33150
(Address is likely invalid)

The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates.  Here are some links on them:

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf

They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations.  They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.  

The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:

Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone:  800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)

There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:

Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml

Kansas:  
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html

Colorado:  
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig

Rhode Island:  
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html

West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.  

"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit.  The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.

Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives.  Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."

Bottom line:

Do not supply the callers with any additional information.  Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up.  If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond.  Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.  

If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.  
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:

* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you.  The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example.  Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.

* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site.  People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.  

* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.  


How to protect yourself:

* Inform your employer.  You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously.  Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work.  If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received.  Save voice mails left if at all possible.  

* Change your number(s).  For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.

Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted.  Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.

* Use Google Voice.  Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use.  Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.  

Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers.  Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script.  At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up.  They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number.  At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again.  (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)

The scammers change their numbers frequently.  Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online.  With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement.  Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.

1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870
1-831-607-9214
1-972-674-3753
1-646-918-5211
1-206-202-4942
1-206-337-7992
1-206-339-8218
1-561-318-0446
1-585-250-8090
1-347-827-0921
1-607-398-0725
1-888-610-5486
1-585-861-9940
1-909-233-7338
1-646-416-9016
1-805-262-6170
1-661-270-6724
1-561-705-0140
1-310-807-0220
1-347-637-6473
1-951-582-4832
1-909-503-0682
1-818-579-7691
1-347-321-6497
1-206-666-3611
1-206-203-0712
1-347-875-8418
1-347-875-9600
1-206-629-9392
1-818-532-9007
1-310-853-3491
1-347-377-7368
1-321-300-4091
1-866-840-2030
1-760-588-2207
1-845-360-0920
1-415-259-5025
1-347-637-6452
1-818-275-4539
1-707-673-9475
1-714-485-9593
1-909-565-4286
1-714-733-5614
1-512-501-3639
1-347-688-9900
1-914-269-4450
1-650-425-1020
1-888-500-2534
1-347-827-3814
1-410-849-9353
1-803-400-8483
1-951-281-4802
1-858-224-8121
1-347-637-6485
1-631-209-6009
1-480-463-1613
1-646-719-9237
1-727-487-5327
1-516-453-9112
1-951-582-4833


So can they really do anything to you?

It's not a simple yes or no answer.  Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.  

So, why haven't they?  

Authorization.  

Why do you think you are being called so much?  Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice?  No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period.  The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past.  Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.

Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough.  A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists.  The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe.  Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt.  See what they say.  A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that.  That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason.  If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution.  In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account.  Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.  

Bottom line:

If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't.  If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't.  Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector.  Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.

PS--The FBI sent out a Press Release on this scam just last week:

Extortion Scam Related to Delinquent Payday Loans

Washington, D.C.
December 07, 2010  FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

— filed under: Press Release

The Internet Crime Complaint Center has received many complaints from victims of payday loan telephone collection scams. Callers claim the victim is delinquent in a payday loan and must repay the loan to avoid legal consequences. The callers purport to be representatives of the FBI, Federal Legislative Department, various law firms, or other legitimate-sounding agencies. They claim to be collecting debts for companies such as United Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Net, and other Internet check-cashing services.

According to complaints received from the public, the callers have accurate data about victims, including Social Security numbers, dates of birth, addresses, employer information, bank account numbers, and the names and telephone numbers of relatives and friends. How the fraudsters obtained the personal information varies, but in some cases victims have reported they completed online applications for other loans or credit cards before the calls started.

The fraudsters relentlessly call the victim’s home, cell phone, and place of employment. They refuse to provide any details about the alleged payday loans and become abusive when questioned. The callers have threatened victims with legal actions, arrests, and, in some cases, physical violence if they do not pay. In many cases, the callers harass victims’ relatives, friends, and employers.

Some fraudsters have instructed victims to fax a statement agreeing to pay a certain amount, on a specific date, via a pre-paid Visa card. The statement further declares the victim will never dispute the debt.

If you receive these calls, do not follow the caller’s instructions. Rather, you should:

Notify your banking institutions.
Contact the three major credit bureaus and request an alert be put on your file.
Contact your local law enforcement agencies if you feel you are in immediate danger.
File a complaint at www.IC3.gov.
Tips to avoid becoming a victim of this scam:

Never give your Social Security number—or personal information of any kind—over the telephone or online unless you initiate the contact.
Be suspicious of any e-mail with urgent requests for personal financial information. The e-mail may include upsetting or exciting but false statements to get you to react immediately.
Avoid filling out forms in e-mail messages that request personal information.
Ensure that your browser is up-to-date and security patches have been applied.
Check your bank, credit, and debit card statements regularly to make sure that there are no unauthorized transactions. If anything looks suspicious, contact your bank and all card issuers.
When you contact companies, use numbers provided on the back of cards or statements

http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/paydayloanscam_120710

called and said I was being sued. Acted very suprised that I had not heard anything previously.  Said he was in NY and if I did not take care of bill on phone right then then the cops would be here tomorrow to take me to jail. He (the name he gave was Jeffrey Morgan)sounded convincing in the beginning but towards end this call was screaming at me...SCAM SCAM SCAM...hope no one else gets taken.  He also said he was with Brown Law Firm in Hamstead, NY on behalf of American Cash Advance--I can not find a listing for them (Browns firm).

I have received a call from 516 453 9112 stating they were pursuing federal warrant call me for 3 different charges 1st thing in the morning if I didn't take care of this today. They stated if I would pay $629.00 it would take care of everything and I would never hear from them again.. If I didn't pay this amount today that they would press charges tomorrow call my job and get me fried because of my action... They claim I got a cash advance from some company could not even tell me which one ... I never received this cash advance they claim....
I called my bank double to check everything no money was ever put in that account ... wow what a scam
I called the police and filled a report .... one thing about this if they had really charges to press why would that call you a warrant or threatening you with charges ... most place would just press charges
Please be aware of this people and don't let them scam you are anyone guess
They even called back and asked about payment .... I started asking question about there firm and that got very defensive got out of them that they law name was Jeremy Obrain but that was it could give me no other info on there lawyer
Please someone stop these people

Got message from same number last night. This time he is Joshua Phillips. Says to call very second we get message. Issue at hand is very time sensitive. If we don't return call, (yawn and phone ringing)
the only thing he can do is wish best of luck as issue unfolds on us.
WOW, LEAVE ME ALONE. THIS IS LIKE THE 4th NUMBER THEY HAVE CALLED ME ON.
Getting tired of the messages and threats. Reported another number and didn't call for a week.
Here we go again. If they call you, do not do anything. This is such a scam.....never borrow from payday.

also known as brown law firm. guy keeps calling my wife claims to be Kevin Jones says she owes money to american cash advance. same threats as to everyone else; this is so obviously a scam. but if you want to have some fun keep calling them back every five minutes like I have been for the past 2 days. they are begging me to stop calling them. ask who they are and if they say brown law firm ask them are they sure because when I called earlier this was harry ferguson legal services. they get very upset and abusive. Kevin has even stopped calling  dont get mad people get even; harass them back they dont like it and they will quit calling you.