585-730-6403

Genesee Valley
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Got a call from this number, Check systems? Never heard of them or understand what they want

they said that they are check systems, is a scam

Got a call from a Sara waters from this number saying she's with chex systems and then told me the make and model of my car and my plates she made is sound like they were going to target my car! How is that possible?

they would not have that info unless they know you

Not true. These scam companies data mine this information which is available all over the internet.

It's a scam. Next time they call just hang up. Don't waste your breathe with them. If you have the ability to block the number, do so.

I have been getting a call from Steven Matthews at this # saying he was from Check Systems and I have been ignoring him.... today I got a call from a local #, when I answered it, it was a man (would not give me his name) saying he was with a firm in my local town on main street and he was sending a person to my house to serve me papers and I needed to pieces of id... I advised I was not home, but if there was paper to be served I would come to his office and pick them up he told me I would have to call 585-730-6403 and speak to them... he would not tell me the name of the company he was with, put when I tried to call the local # back I got a fax machine, so I googled the local # and it was the fax # to our local magistrate office... I really don't believe anyone from the magistrate's office was trying to contact me - I believe they would have identified themselfs, and would have allowed me to come to the office to pick up any papers,  I called Steven Matthews he told me if I promised to make a payment Friday he would stop the delivery person from serving me papers?????  has this happend to anyone else???

Just wanted to know how you all know they are a scam? They have been harassing me as well. I too got a call from Sara Waters stating she was from Arbritration and they are required to advise me of action being taken against me. If you have done your homework and know for sure they are a scam can you please reply and put my mind at ease. I would appreciate it so much. I am at my wits end..I am tired of the threats and I too have never received paers that they claimed were going to be delivered or any mail whatsoever from them..Please help put me at ease and confirm the scam that they are pulling.. Thank you..

Check Systems is very well known here. They are lowly frauds in the purest "Buffalo Boys" tradition. They are bottom feeders dependent on bargain bin information. That's the only kind they can afford. I'm surprised they're still showing signs of life. They're under scrutiny from several directions. The only reason that they'd still be operating is due to the protection afforded them by the huge fraudulent collection lobby in western NY state. Entire local economies there are reliant on debt collection firms. Some legitimate, most fraudulent. The locals see it as a good alternative to letting the scumbags walk the streets.
Put your mind at ease. If you talk to them again, DEMAND a complete, legitimate notice of validation be sent to you by mail. NOT e-mail or Fax! As per federal regulations under the FDCPA. I can guarantee that as soon as you do, they will become highly agitated. When they refuse to comply, or start babbling, they've confirmed what I've just told you. They are FRAUDS!
Live Well.
Gunnar

Yes I have received this threat as well. The caller ID came from my local paper in my town. Threatened me with papers too. Never received any and never received anything in the mail. Today I received a call from Sara Waters and said she was rfom arbritration and is required to notify me when action is being taken against me. This has been going on for a few months, but never have been sent anything ever in the mail. I do not believe I have to worry if I was going to be going to court, you would be notified by mail. Still it is frustrating to deal with and I kow how you feel. Dont give into them. When I told them I never received anything they stated my old address but was not too concerned about getting a correct one. I did not offer either. I figured if they can find my cell # when I never gave it to them they can find my address. If you are going to be going to court by them you will receive something in the mail, not just threats on the phone...hope this helps..

Thank you for you for you input. I have requested several times to request something in writing and they have no complied. They claimed they mailed something and it keeps coming back. This is not the case. I have moved once and had a forwarding address when I moved. They have even threatened to serve papers. I am smart enough to know that any legitimate court issue you would be notified in writing. So I guess that there lact of compliance to mailing me in writing confirms fraud. Furthermore they stated that they could fax it to me or email it. I declined. Thank you for your input. So I can not worry even if the calls come in and are not obligated to return those calls???

No worries! I've dealt with far better scammers than Check Systems. Always as a Plaintiff, never as a Defendant. Check Systems came on to our radar a couple of years ago. Even back then we determined that they weren't worth pursuit. They are composed of nothing, they have nothing & nothing is all they'll ever be.
From its conception Check Systems was a sham. Notice the play on words they use as their name. The real Chex Systems is aware of these frauds. And the last I heard, they were none too happy about it! That's one of the reasons I'm surprised they're still poking their noses out of their sewer. My guess is that they think they're hiding really well.
It's up to you if you answer their calls. Once they are aware that you know your rights under the FDCPA they'll probably give up. The fraud shops hate an educated target. They know they're wasting their time. You will certainly not ever be obligated to return their calls. As a matter of fact, under federal regulations, they had 5 business days to supply you with a notice of validation after initial contact with you. By mail. Needless to say, you haven't received that. And you never will. These clowns don't deal in legitimate debt. They can't afford to, and wouldn't be able to comply with the necessary stipulations if they wanted to.
Outfits like theirs are getting more desperate by the day. The bottom has dropped out of the "PDL Scam" and the Indians are gobbling up the remaining few gullible targets faster than the domestic fraud shops can get to them. Serves the morons in western NY right. The Indians learned their trade from the "Buffalo Boys". Some of the early Indian call centers were coached & financed by the fools! Ain't outsourcing grand?
Do me a favor though. If you talk to them again, tell them that Gunnar at 800notes says Hi! If the twit has a mouth full of coffee you'll hear it erupt from his, or hers, nose! I wonder if the frauds love me as much as I love them?
Live Well.
Gunnar

According to the Chex Systems website,  RELAX   They don't make phone calls to the consumer

Thre was a phone call today from number 585-730-6403 saying we owe all this money and if we don't pay they will be taking us to court for fraud. Did anyone else get this call from number? trying to see if it is a scam.

Just received a call from Sarah Waters staying that she was with chex systems.  Then she made a settlement with me to pay $335.  instead of the original amount of $1622.00.  I was then transferred to Michelle with American Mutual Holdings some outside payment process system.  Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this scammers....it's nerve wrecking to keep getting these calls.  Can our Government not stop these people from calling us.  Plus I don't know how they got my phone number because I've changed it several times.

They can harvest personal information from the Internet, which is why they have your phone number.  Always be very leery of anyone wanting you to "settle" immediately, over the phone.  Please read Gunnar's informative posts from earlier in this thread - per the FDCPA, you should not pay any caller who refuses to MAIL a debt validation letter to you showing you owe a debt and they have the right to collect said debt.  In fact, your caller only has five days from the date of their first call to mail this documentation to you.  Refusal or failure to mail this is a violation of the FDCPA and again, you should not pay them a dime.

Please do report your callers to the FTC, FCC and your state's Attorney General.

Just got a call from Rocko Deluka with check systems saying I was going to be sued and my assets frozen on Saturday  if I didn't pay up by tomorrow. Never heard of them and the incident it was from 10 plus years ago.and had been taken care of.when I told them I wanted a statement send to me he got all snotty with me! What a jerk

They called my number looking for my brother. I am sure this is a scam. it was from Sarah Waters. and from the best I can find out, they do this a lot. on another site there are 300 people they called and tried to collect money from. is there anything we can do? I mean sure posting it on the internet is one thing but shutting down the company is another. How would we go about doing this or exposing them as the frauds they are?