716-558-5861

Really rude Call Center people with southern/midwestern accents.

Collectors trying on old debts

Some dumb debt collector pretending that you gave him this number. Guess they just try all kinds of possible numbers in trying to get paid for debts they they pennies on the dollar for.

a guy called robert powers called my cellphone... they pretend to be something that they don't, dumb [***] collectors, they are saying that i should call them asap to resolve in an "amicable way" whatever they're problem is, is that a threat????? I just got this phone number, they don't even check they information. If they keep calling I'll sue them for leaving threatening messages on my phone, People check your facts before making a phone call.

I just got a call today on both my home and cell phone. Same name and he said the same thing and that he was from a place called "P and P" or it was "B and B",said they have tried to contact me thru mailings and has a soc trying to get in contact with me to no avail. Wanted a response by wednesday. Interesting what I find on these sites....

We got a call also from Robert Powers at home and cell with the same story about P&P and a letter I supposedly received which I did not and that I need to contact him by next week or he won't be able to help me etc etc. I never received any letter and I have no outstanding debts so this is a bunch of baloney.

I keep receiving calls looking for someone who is not me obviously, but owes something to someone.
Looking for someone with last name perez? I have had this # for over 10 years, he does not listen and is rude and doesn't give up.

He called me as well saying that I should of received a letter in the mail in October, which I never did. He also said he was sending me a email which he never did. He also wanted to set up a payment and then never collected my information, which I wouldn't of given him anyways. I do have a debt but this place sounds very shady to me. I don't think I would want to give them any of my financial info.

Got a call from Robert Powers, this was in regard to a credit one bank account. the debt was a valid debt though.

Robert Powers called my landline looking for ( daughter's name ).  Said he sent out a letter a week ago and was trying to reach her.  Wanted her phone number, told him no as I do not know who he is or what he wants and I will not give him any information. He then asked if I could give her a message.  Told him that I would do that.  He gave  me his nameas Robert Powrs and the phone number 716-558-5861.  When I asked him what it was about, he told me it was a private matter but had to do with litigation.  I called my daughter, she knew nothing about him or his phone number or the letter he said he had sent out to her.  I since blocked this phone number now on my landline and when or if he calls again he will be disconnected automatically.

Called my cell and my moms landline looking for my dad. Parents have been divorced for 30 years. Something about a Best Buy card?? No clue how true it is.

I got the same thing. Only they said the reason I may have not received the letter is because I threw it out. They claimed the letter would not have been marked for my privacy.  Please that is a load of BS. There are no outstanding debts AND if they really needed to get in contact with me they should have a return address.

History of debt scamming on 800notes.  This "Robert Powers" persona appears repeatedly on this scam.

Most likely this group:

http://www.pandbcapitalgroup.com/
P&B Capital Group LLC
(Headquarters)
369 Washington St
Suite 100
Buffalo, NY 14203
Phone: 888-569-9635
Fax: 716-891-5810
_____________________________
BBB:
(716) 891-5800
P&B Capital Group, LLC
13 years in business
455 Center Rd Ste 1
West Seneca, NY 14224-2100
Fax Numbers
(716) 891-5810
Additional Phone Numbers
(888) 569-9635
(877) 743-9600
(312) 445-0291
(760) 851-0024
(503) 867-8805
(406) 534-0527
Additional Email Addresses
sean@pandbcapitalgroup.com
info@pandbllc.com
jbruscia@pandbcapitalgroup.com
BBB File Opened: 12/14/2005
Business Started: 04/28/2004
Business Started Locally: 04/28/2004
Business Incorporated: 04/23/2004 in NY
Type of Entity
Limited Liability Company
Business Management
Mr. Ryan Kazmark, MGRM
Mr. Sean J. Welch, Owner / Managing Member
Business Category

Collection Agencies
Alternate Business Names
 P and B Capital Group
 J K Associates
ALERT
BBB has seen a major increase in collection agencies starting business in the Upstate New York area over the past several years. In an effort to keep consumers informed about which collection agencies are operating in accordance with federal and state law, we have asked for specific information from all collection agencies located in our service area, including proof of licensing, bonding, and or registration required by NY state or other governments where the business is located, as well as proof of licensing required by any state in which the business operates. This collection agency has not responded to our requests. BBB advises consumers to be aware of their rights in regard to collections. This includes New York States law prohibiting any collection agency from collecting on Payday loans in the State of New York. The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) outlines prohibited behavior when attempting to collect a debt, and outlines specific rights for consumers. There are penalties for agencies found in violation of the Act. BBB advises consumers to become familiar with their rights under the Act, which can be found at the Federal Trade Commission’s Website at: ftc.gov . Consumers can file with us at bbb.org/complain.

Licensing, Bonding or Registration

This business is in an industry that may require professional licensing, bonding or registration. BBB encourages you to check with the appropriate agency to be certain any requirements are currently being met.
This Business Is Not BBB Accredited
P&B Capital Group, LLC
B-  BBB Rating System
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Per records of the Secretary of State of New York
PHILLIPS & BURNS, LLC
Selected Entity Status Information
Current Entity Name:    P&B CAPITAL GROUP, LLC
DOS ID #:    3044620
Initial DOS Filing Date:    APRIL 23, 2004
County:    ERIE
Jurisdiction:    NEW YORK
Entity Type:    DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status:    ACTIVE
Selected Entity Address Information
DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
P&B CAPITAL GROUP, LLC
369 WASHINGTON ST
STE 100
BUFFALO, NEW YORK, 14203
Registered Agent
NONE
____________________

In any event,

Just because someone on the phone calling you says you owe a debt does not mean you actually owe it.

If a voice on the telephone claims you owe a debt:

1.    Demand the person give you his or her name, company name, and address
2.     Demand a debt validation letter by US mail.  E-mail no good.
3.    Do not pay  the collection agent or anyone else a  dime until the debt is validated

Of course they won’t do this, no scammer ever will, so simply ignore them and block their calls.

If they are bothering you, report them:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection (Threatening civil proceedings with no intent to follow through, or threatening criminal process in order to collect a civil debt is a  violation of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.)  The same goes for endless telephone harassment

Note that the US Supreme Court in the Case of HENSON ET AL. v. SANTANDER CONSUMER USA INC., has recently ruled that the provisions of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act do not apply if the creditor owns the debt in question.  As a practical matter this probably won't effect the kinds of scam debt collectors who often show up on 800notes.  The scam collectors don't give you any information about themselves so it is impossible to know whether or not they in fact "own" the debt in question.  Most do not send debt validation letters and many often say they are collecting for someone else.  So, make the complaint anyway if they are bothering you.  Let the FTC sort it out.

Also contact your local attorney general

If they continue to bother you,  and you know you do not owe any money, tell them that you know this is  a debt scam and that you are making a complaint to the police for extortion.  Once you get a copy of the police report and they call you again , just read out the  file number and the name of the PD or Sheriff’s office involved.   Tell them you’ll be glad to send a copy to them at whatever address the jack***es are working out of now.

You'll probably have to yell at them and talk over them.
You have to get tuff with these people because,  being akin to thugs, brute force is (metaphorically speaking).   the only thing they understand.

I owe money and the trying to find out if I got my taxes back yet and set up how much I can give them. I owe care credit money.