206-905-7637

Owner of this phone number claims to be selling a new BMW R1200 GS for $6,000. (About 1/2 of actual value) His purported name is John Ligonis and he claims to be in Italy. See following email.

Hello,

The bike is still for sale. Never had any mechanical problems. I must
tell you that I had to move to Italy , Rome one month ago with my work
and I took the bike with me hoping to drive it here as well. I work in
Public relations department at a hotel here and because of this job I
change my home quite often. Here I had an unpleasant surprise because
the bike is an US model and to pay the registration here in Europe, to
pass all the emissions and standards  and many other would be quite
expensive and nobody would do it. I have tried to sell it locally but it
was not successfully. That is why I am trying to sell the bike back in
USA , there will be no further problems because the bike passes US
emissions standards and DOT & EPA as long as it has been purchased in US
space.
If interested please reply asap. Shipping takes 8-10 days.
Thank you for your time.

Same exact thing as above other than now the new number he is using is: +393286423905.  I found this on cycle trader and sent a quick email questioning about the bike.  "John" has a aol address which says it is owned by a person in California.

Same exact message to me except now he is selling an ATV.

RECEIVED THE SAME SCAM! THIS TIME IT WAS FOR AN ATV! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS I ALMOST BOUGHT INTO IT!

Hello,
The atv is still for sale. Never had any mechanical problems. I must> > tell you that I had to move to Italy one month ago with my work and I> > took the atv with me hoping to drive it here as well. I work in Public> > relations departament at a hotel here and because of this job I change> > my home quite often. Here I had an unpleasant surprise because the atv> > is an US model and to pay the registration here in Europe, to pass all> > the emissions and standards and many other would be quite expensive and> > nobody would do it. I have tried to sell it locally but it was not> > succesfully. That is why I am trying to sell the atv back in USA, there> > will be no further problems because the atv passes US emissions> > standards and DOT & EPA as long as it has been purchased in US space.> > If interested please reply asap. Shipping takes 8-10 days.> > Thank you for your time.> >> > Respectfully,> >> > PS: I have attached more pictures with my atv>

Thank you all for posting this information. I was considering purchasing this bike but some things just didnt seem right and now that I have read these e-mails you guys have really helped me save my money.

Thanks Again
Liz

Hello,

The bike is still for sale. Never had any mechanical problems. I must
tell you that I had to move to Italy, Rome one month ago with my work
and I took the bike with me hoping to drive it here as well. I work in
Public relations department at a hotel here and because of this job I
change my home quite often. Here I had an unpleasant surprise because
the bike is an US model and to pay the registration here in Europe, to
pass all the emissions and standards  and many other would be quite
expensive and nobody would do it. I have tried to sell it locally but it
was not successfully. That is why I am trying to sell the bike back in
USA, there will be no further problems because the bike passes US
emissions standards and DOT & EPA as long as it has been purchased in US
space.
If interested please reply asap. Shipping takes 8-10 days.
Thank you for your time.

Respectfully

I also got the same email about a polaris razor moved to rome , blah blah blah. Exactly the same reply.

got one today on cycle trader for a 1000 gsxr 4800$
same blue print moved to italy link to some bogus shipping cmpny blablabla

He emailed me about a boat he has for sale. I knew it was too good to be true because it is a $40,000 boat. Here is his email......

Hi, I'm glad that you're interested in my boat. The boat is in good condition, has no technical damages at all, no scratches or dents,no hidden defects. It has a clear and clean title signed and all you have to do is to put your name on it.I want to mention that I am now located in Italy, Rome my wife is from here and I have the boat with me. Here I had an unpleasant surprise because the boat is an US model and i have to pay the registration here in Europe, to pass all the emissions and standards and many other would be quite expensive and nobody would do it. I have tried to sell it locally but it was not successfully. That is why I am trying to sell it back in states.I can deliver the boat to your address and I will agree to let you test it and inspect it for a few days just to be sure. I am going to use a shipping company to deliver it and you will pay the shipping and insurance fees. I want to use this company because I used it to bring the boat here and they had a excellent service, it came with absolutely no damage or scratches.It should take about 8-10 days to get the boat delivered.If interested please reply asap.Thank you for your time. Respectfully, P.S. I have attached more pictures with my bike

Same thing but with the atv.  What made me doubt the deal was the 8-10 days to deliver the atv by ocean freight??  This can only happen by air freight.  Scam, wish there was a way to report this as fraud.  If its too good to be true.....

This scammer also uses +393286423905.
AKA Thomasride2@aol.com
Overseas shipping scams for bikes atv boats.

Same guy still using the same lines. I notified CycleTrader; let's see if they remove the BMW K1200R ad.

He's still at it.  4/10/2009 There was an ad for a 2002 Harley Fat Boy.

I received a reply with the same exact story, overseas in Italy.

Still at it...we received the same message regarding a Polaris Ranger on 12/15/2009.  Thanks for all who posted and warned us about this!

E-mail response from annhoster@yahoo.com:

Hello,
I am very sorry for the delayed response.
The bike is still for sale. Never had any mechanical problems. I must tell you that I had to move to Italy, Roma one month ago with my work and I took the bike with me, hoping to drive it here as well. I work in Public relations department for Hilton Hotels here. When I got here I had an unpleasant surprise, because the bike is a US model and to pay the registration here in Europe, to pass all the emissions and standards and many other, would be quite expensive and nobody would do it. I tried to sell it locally but it was not successfully. That is why I am trying to sell the bike back in US. There will be no further problems because the bike passes US emissions standards and DOT & EPA as long as it has been purchased in US space.
I can deliver the bike to your address and I will agree to let you test it and inspect it for a few days just to be sure. I am going to use a shipping company to deliver it and you will pay the shipping and insurance fees. I want to use this company because I used it to bring the bike here and they had a excellent service, it came with absolutely no damage or scratches. It should take about 8-10 days to get the bike.
If interested please reply asap. Thank you for your time.

P.S. I have attached more pictures with my bike

Respectfully,

P.S.- regarding above response from anhoster@yahoo.com- Person was advertising a mint looking 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa for $5,000 at Cycletrader.com  Price and condition of bike were too good to be true, so I inquired further and received the above response.