216-478-5178

I I received a phone call from this number saying they were from Cardinal legal services about a online loan that I applied for in 2012 that I don't even recall

The phone call was about a personal loan that I took out online in 2012 that I don't recall he did not say this conversation was being recorded he told me I have a court date on August 24th and that amount owed with 900 and something but I could settle for today and make an offer so I made an offer of $250 and he was asking for my banking information and I asked him to call me back in 5 minutes because I was going to check out the name of the business and the phone number that was about 45 minutes ago and he has not called me back yet so I am so glad I did not give my personal banking

Said cardinal legal services are they professional  legit how do you know if it's a scam

Got same call/recording... then they called again and it their number came up as "Restricted" saying to contact 305-273-2952 (another robo scam number)... Best thing to do is to block the call and/or ignore it.

they had the last 4 of my SS# smh  talking about i could go to jail lol

Said restricted so I did not answer.  Left a voicemail that was cut off at the beginning, the recording kicked on too soon so all I caught on voicemail was "need your signature & 2 forms of ID in order to put in a stop order for this week" please call & then a recorded mans voice said the phone # 216-478-5178. After reading other notes on here, I see this is some scam.

The fake process server/location finder extortion SCAM usually consists of the following:

They mention that they have received a Fax document or some sort of complaint and that there is a pending legal matter or action about to filed against you to create the sense of urgency.  They tell you that they are a “process server” and cannot give you the particulars of the case since the file is sealed. This is simply ruse to get you to call another number (often with a made-up case number) where they will ask for money to “make it go away” (this is actually the same place, they work in teams, one pretending to be the server, and the other usually pretends to be a lawyer).  They threaten to serve you at home or at work.  They tell you that if they serve you at work then they will need a supervisor, security, or HR person there as a witness, hoping that will cause you to panic over the alleged embarrassment of being served at work.  They also tell you that you will need two forms of ID.  None of which is true.  Process servers do not ever call ahead so that you can dodge them.  Process servers get paid to serve papers, nothing else.  They certainly are not going to pass up a paycheck by telling you that you can avoid being served, they are not going to give you an extra day or even a few hours to get a “stop order”.  Court documents are time sensitive and must be served within a certain amount of time.  Remember that you can always call the local courthouse to see if there really is a lawsuit that has been filed against you.

It is incumbent upon them under the law to prove that the debt exists and that you owe it, and (this is the important part) that they have the legal right to collect it.  You are not obligated under the law to prove that you don’t owe or that it is paid.  

Federal law (FDCPA) requires them to send you a letter (US MAIL ONLY) postmarked within 5 days of their first contact that contains their name, physical address, the creditor’s name, and the amount of the alleged debt. It also must contains “mini-Miranda” telling you that it is an attempt to collect a debt and that all information will be used for those purposes.  The one other important thing that this letter must also have in it is that you have a right to dispute the debt within 30 days of receipt of the letter and if you do so, all collection activity must be stopped until the debt is verified.  If and when you get that letter you should immediately send that debt validation letter by certified, return receipt mail.

First, you should make a complaint at this Federal Agency, and while there you should also read up on how debt collection is supposed to work as well as what your rights in this matter are: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/

Also file complaints with the FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1

Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General's office.
List of State AG’s offices:   https://800notes.com/faq/attorney-general