210-417-4495

I and family members and friends have gotten numbers from this number and other spoofed numbers claiming they are investigators with Abner Bank. The woman today was confrontational and unprofessional and when I asked her to send the information to my email so that I can show my lawyer, she started yelling and sounding very nervous. They use many numbers and never have any real information............just threats.........total scam

Thank you!  Good to know.  Just received a call today from this number.

Someone from this number called claiming to be Investigator Kelly from Abner Bain and Associates. She says it so fast that it's very difficult to understand. It took several times of listening to understand her. She has been leaving messages for someone who does not live at my house at a number I've had for a very long time. In the message she left the social security number of the person she's looking for which I'm fairly confident is illegal. On a day off, I took the time to call them back and let them know that they had the wrong number. When I called her back she was extremely rude and said she was going to call me every day from different numbers and hung up on me. So I called her back. She hung up on me again. So I called her back. Rinse and repeat several more times and each time she gets more and more rude. Telling me things like get a job and name calling. Then she tells me she's going to block me, to which I respond bring it. Then she starts telling me that I'm calling a law firm, a clear attempt to intimidate me. During all this I tracked down the website for this supposed law firm. Here it is for anyone interested. https://www.abnerbainassociates.com/ I started calling the main number between calling her back to try and get someone else to speak with as she was being abusive and irrational. Nobody answered the main line even though I called it several times. Eventually they did block my number so I used the chat feature on their website to talk with someone. After a rather entertaining conversation I received confirmation that they would stop calling me. I highly suspect this is a scam. I find it highly hard to believe that a professional law firm would employ tactics like this or someone who is so incredibly rude. The other hint of a scam is that its website powered by WIX. It's basically the trailer park of webdesign.

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A supposed investigator from a supposed law firm left a threatening g message .

Thank you for the info.

She called me and i have her on my voicemail mailbox , she said after i pay my loan off the laywers will be sending me my important document to prove i have paid but i never received it and that was in 2020 and here it is 2021 my last payment was a $100.00 and i paid almost $ 300.00 i hope this crook get caught along with the other crooks that in on this scam ... I been trying to call her most of the day with no return call I've even text to let her know i need my document as proof to give the other people that trying to have me pay all over again ... This is so wrong now i know to investigate these debt collectors at all cost. Because both her numbers is scam numbers the (210) 598 - 5452 And the (210) 417 - 4495. Investigator kelly her real name is SAMANTHA KELLY

I doubt that you even owed the bill to begin with.  Her real name is probably not even close to Samantha Kelly.  You paid them without making them follow the letter of the law and that is why you are getting more calls.  Because they know that you are an easy mark.

It is incumbent upon them under the law to prove that the debt exists and that you owe it, and (this is the important part) that they have the legal right to collect it.  You are not obligated under the law to prove that you don’t owe or that it is paid.  

Federal law (FDCPA) requires them to send you a letter (US MAIL ONLY) postmarked within 5 days of their first contact that contains their name, physical address, the creditor’s name, and the amount of the alleged debt. It also must contains “mini-Miranda” telling you that it is an attempt to collect a debt and that all information will be used for those purposes.  The one other important thing that this letter must also have in it is that you have a right to dispute the debt within 30 days of receipt of the letter and if you do so, all collection activity must be stopped until the debt is verified.  If and when you get that letter you should immediately send that debt validation letter by certified, return receipt mail.

First, you should make a complaint at this Federal Agency, and while there you should also read up on how debt collection is supposed to work as well as what your rights in this matter are: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/

Also file complaints with the FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1

Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General's office.
List of State AG’s offices:   https://800notes.com/faq/attorney-general

Thank you so much now i know that she is definitely a scam artist , and i do hope she gets caught