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http://asiancorrespondent.com/ james cravens new scam website - lying about stats and traffic

ASIANCORRESPONDENT.COM SITE BY PALLIAN CREATIVE is a scam selling advertising space using fake figures and traffic stats

asian correspondent is owned by the x ceo of gds international james craven. james craven created the scam web site for gds international meet the boss TV

james craven is a conman and asian correspondent is a scam. many contributors havent been paid for content, sales people have to stand up all day, its really hard work been a salesman

asian correspondent is a scam.

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CDM media CEO Glenn willis, x GDS, scammer - even on his linkedin.com account he lies and said he use to work @ http://www.getgds.com/site.php

yes thats right GET GDS

no relation of GDS and he never worked there.

why no mention of his past on linkedin.com ..

also this get gds uses the same thing as GDS will use: Global data systems

I think CDM media and their summits are also a con and a scam. they employ the x GDS staff writing this blog

Mike Deedigan
Vice President at CDM Media
Rob Simms
VP, Business Development & Event...
Ross Abbott
VP North America at CDM Media
Mark Southam
Experienced B2B Technology Marketing...


all X gds conmen, and in typical fashion all have big titles @ cdm media, scam, con, summits, SCAM :)

If you worked for those companies, and have inside knowledge then by all means start a thread and post about them.

To be honest I thought Chris Hull and his company (British Publishers) went under years ago, obviously not the case.  I had an LOL moment when seeing the similarities with the whole (strategies) publications.

Its like Clone Wars, if each of those companies concentrated more on doing business instead of copying each other it would make less fodder for forums like this.

Jim Berry of Strategic Path Australia, another former GDS MD and Salesman was someone who I thought broke the mould with his new approach, only to be short lived as he returned back to the GDS Cartel.

Sterling, no idea about that company, I recall Spencer had a connection to them many, many years ago but that is as far as it goes.

Glenn's CDM site while not looking the best, does have outstanding marketing behind it, and its well thought out, less fluff than the rest really.  No idea if its a SCAM/SHAM but I really would hope that Glenn has moved past the GDS Training and remained true to himself.

John Ward (Wardy) what ever happened to him, perhaps he is in Jail, this guy was an ass of epic proportion.

Spencer Green - Istrategy
Jim Berry - Strategic Path
Chris Hull - eStrategies

Is a pattern emerging?  Attack of the Clones.

Can't say I blame him for that.  I also would not want to list GDS as a Previous Employer, especially on the likes of LinkedIN.

The GDS name is dirt.  I seriously would consider re-branding if I were them.

The only people who think GDS training is good is Yellow pages and other like-minded sales positions, Car sales for example are a lover of GDS training.

The problem with GDS is that the culture is teaching you that you should lie and rewarding you for doing so.  There are plenty of good sales people who sold because they were just good at selling and did not need the fruit and fluff BS from the scripts.

They were few and far between.

If you are happy to share companies who are seeking former GDS employees then please post as I am sure there are many former GDS staff would appreciate this information.

What Marcus Evans and the like do is beside the point, they can be a thousand times worse, this thread is about GDS. All of these posts are off topic, wether preplanned or accidental, they are taking the discourse away from GDS which is what people on here want to read and write about into a more generalised discussion about telemarketing.

I'm sure there are dedicated topics for other companies and telemarketing in general where this can be discussed.

I am reporting all of the above posts to the administrator with a request they be removed because they are contaminating the topic with irelevant spam.

on the first pages of this creditless forum it says the NY DA are gonna close down GDS, and that CID/FBI are working undercover.

My oh my, they are taking a long time to act arent they?

It also states GDS is going down hill?

Oh really?

Show me..where?

Disgruntled sacked failure of sales people should move on, or open a clone company and rip of all the ideas GDS have hand crafted over the years, into excellent media products.

There is no evidence at all in any of these threads, just slander. Nothing is backed up and GDS are still open, and expanding into Miami.

You lot need to get real and stop wasting your lives at your PC screen. Moaning on 800notes will not achieve anything, as this long, drawn out thread shows.

GDS are on the up and up = FACT

2 years after your initial complaints your still spouting the same BS which makes you look like fools.

The best thing you could do with your time, if you feel GDS products aren't up to scratch, is design and sell your own. Put all this pent up energy and bitterness into something creative and therefore show up all the holes in what GDS offer..

oh hang on, that might take hard work, lead sourcing, standing up for 6 hours and getting shouted at for not being able to close properly.

Im surprised any of you on here ever made it past a day @ GDS - youll all a bunch of whiney old women

Hahahhahahahaha

"Creditless" from a company where every last person says they are a director, promises to introduce clients to people who haven't even confirmed attendance at the event, lies about the atendee list and misrepresents who is attending and why.

And what happened to the magazines? These global magazines that were mailordered by 80 000 executives world wide, were just pulled from production with no reactions or fanfare either by GDS or their massive loyal readership?!?!!!

I can see why GDS would assume this forum has no credibility it is really quite simple; you GDSers simply have no concept of what credibility is so you can't possibly comprehend how it is evaluated.

admit it, this forum has failed you

The more people like you who come on and wind people up, the more people are going to post,  GDS always had that problem, big mouth salesman who could not control themselves.

GDS needs to quit playing victim here and put their hands up.

As for Evidence, what do you want to see.

Training Manuals
Scripts
False and Manipulated Web Stats.

Its all on here.

As nothing on here is a spoken word, the slander does not exist.  However perhaps libel would be a more effective term, and if that is the case then GDS should take appropriate legal action, oh wait, they tried that.

As for GDS's turnover, I have seen the accounts, they are publicly available for all.  I will say to that, Turnover is Vanity, Profit Sanity.

For those claiming unrelated comments, I would say to them that the apple does not fall far from the tree, these forums are for discussing such information relating to the company, and part of building an opinion of a company is to make references to other companies in direct relation or indeed spun off in order to provide a more complete picture and add weight to claims.

If none of the information on here were true, GDS could apply for a US court order to release the posters IP addresses and target those in the UK, at which point GDS would need a court order from a UK court to request matching IP to users, then GDS International could attempt to sue each individual involved in making any falsehoods.

But of course they run the risk of exposing themselves to possible scrutiny as the burden of proof is on their doorstep.

So if none of this is true, then I challenge GDS International to seek out legal review.  I for one can back up everything that I have said, and then some.

Finally, GDS can spend millions on SEO but what client is going to type GDS scam unless they have heard about it before.  The more they do to bury results of sites like this, the more credibility they give to sites like this.

As for that Article on googledropdown.com, that will now only serve to make more people type in GDS International Scam which would bring them to this site.  So if GDS were involved, then they just shot themselves.

The claims as to the reasons why, will also be discredited when those visitors read the true story.

This is what happens to the guilty, they make mistakes by trying to cover things up and ultimately do more damage than good.

Would an innocent person spend so much time trying to manipulate bad press? or would they do what any sane person would do, and this would be to challenge and seek justice.

James Craven - Hybrid News Limited
Glenn Willis - CDM Media
Chris Hull - Status Unknown

and all the rest, were part of GDS and as James Craven is a Shareholder so he is still part of GDS therefore it goes towards quantum.

As for not achieving anything, well that is a matter of perception, as from what I can see GDS are trying to make changes, and that has to be in part because their tactics have been challenged and their character scrutinised.

Disgruntled employees? in so many numbers for a company who is considered Small in the corporate scheme of things does not really bode well.

Can't say I am disgruntled though in the terms you implied, I left with a smile on my face, and never once looked back.  I come on here to help expose the company for what it was, and to try and atone for the part I played.

Over 2 years on now, tick tock, tick tock...for such an OUTRAGEOUS breach of legislation they sure are taking their time!

Ok the conditions can be difficult and stressful at times, standing is not mandatory but encouraged to keep you motivated, which of course does not always work, but that is why GDS offer attractive reparations.

You see if you had an understanding of how the law works, action would have been taken by now. Ok I agree in the interests of being impartial certain tactics do suggest deceit, but they are not malicious enough to provoke revolt, no employee of client is obliged to stay there and suggesting GDS is capable of 'scamming' companies, many of which are fortune 500 is ludicrous, these are some the highest paid business minds in the whole world, would they realise participate and in most cases rebook for something that a company 100x smaller due to undue pressure!

There are problems, there are solutions, but really, unless you have first hand experience of being scammed, you can't jump on the bandwagon and state that a company growing at a phenomenal rate, registered with companies house is really capeable of such high end fraud and deceit for so long without authorities getting involved, ergo, although tactics and strategies may not be approved of, the company acts in accordance with the law and it is for the authorities and courts to decide to take action, which in the 4 years this blog has been out; has not happened.

I am trying to be impartial and I agree some things aren't perfect but they do not constitute fraud or act illegally or else action would have been taken, and at the end of the day, isn't it just better to get on with your own life, whether it is sad or fruitful and just forget something that does not affect you and leave it to affected companies to take their own action, which I will say they do not.

Posting names of employees is itself defamation due to them being named and accused of false circumstances, it just seems quite hypocritical to me.

Anyway, feel free to comment and discuss, but I am not a child nor do I wish to bicker, so please keep comments constructive.

Well I still work in a GROWING company, but you guaranteed me a 100% chance of them being shut down, by now, the lies, the deceit.

See folks it's easy to spin the truth and tailor it to your own opinion, it's often a matter of perspective!

I have to be honest i worked for gds twice, and earned an incredible amount of experience from max ford and others there. I-Strat is not a scam i went to the first event and it was a great success, if some of you had been there you certainly wouldn't be giving it such a bad name. GDS is a great company giving chances to people who haven't had an experience in a sales environment, it is a great career choice for a lot of people, and i for one, am upset that due to unforeseen family circumstances had to leave the company, if i had the bottle i would go straight back and ask for a job back on istrat, please stop having a pop at them these guys and girls are doing their job well and earning a decent living working for a good company.

My only intention was to vent my frustration, share my stories with others and listen to theirs, in that sense it has served quite well.

And again how come the magazines are no longer published? When I read back through the archive you guys (or your predecessors) said that they were legit and doing fantastic and yet they've been pulled from circulation??? Why? And why has there been no comment on this either by GDS or or their readers? Magazines get pulled from circulation all the time but it usually happens one at a time not an entire range of a dozen different publications in one hit!

Why no comment on this? Are the conferences going to just vanish overnight as well one day?

I too fell prey to the lure of a J-O-B.  Truth be told, that's how GDS or next generation xyz is getting people to work for them. They rent space in the trump building on wall street to impress people that don't know them. Once you know them, you realize a con is a con.

Working for this company is a horrible mistake that could easilt threaten your livelihood.  They have you use your own computer and your own cell phone to CON executives and their staff but when you do the unethical things they tell you to do for your job, you will be personally responsible not them. It's a dirty con that they're running. All they care about  is collecting thounsands from these execs and stuffing their pockets.

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will news that CDM media and asian correspondent being a scam magazine, boiler room, fake, con, publisher, james craven, glenn willis, scammer, telesales, hybrid news scam, cdm media scam, lie, liar, pitch, sales, topple the rubbish started by them about GDS international?

getting interesting now PMSL

I see cdm media is run by ex gds employee glen willis. cdm media. is cdm media a scam? do cdm media run a boiler room? cdm media wrote all of the complaints here about gds international?

is the cdm cio summit a scam? cdm media scam?

I have complied with your request, so as of now I do not want any more harassment from GDS. No further phone calls or any attempt to contact me by GDS or persons acting on behalf of GDS whatsoever or in any way. I took it down and do not intend to put it up again so leave me alone.

If you attemp to contact me or intefere with me either directly or indirectly, I will send all printed material as well as a signed statement to the Department of Fair Traiding (the Australian equivalent of the FCC) as well as the department of workplace relations. I will draw to your attention the following:

5 Prohibited calling times
General Calls
(1)Subject to subsection (3), a caller must not make, or cause to be made, a call that is not a research call, or attemp;t to make such a call, on:
(a)a weekday before 9 am....

Research calls
(2)Subject to subsection (3), a caller must not make, or cause to be made, a research call, or attemp;t to make such a call, on:
(a)a weekday before 9 am....

I draw your attention to the fact that your call centre makes calls from 8.30 am, which is half an hour before the allowed calling time

6 Provision of Information during a call

Information to be provided
(1)The following information must be given, or caused to be given, by a caller to a call recipient in accordance with this section:
(a)the call operators given name:
(b)the call operator's:
(i)full name; or
(ii)employee or staff identifier that is sufficient to enable the call operator to be identified:
......
(c)the purpose of the call
(d)if the call operator makes the call under a contract of employment-the name of the call operator's employer
(e)if the call operator makes the call under a contract of employment-the contact details of the call operator's employer;
.......
(h)the name and contact details of any person responsible for dealing with consumer inquiries or complaints about (i)the call operastor or; (ii) the caller or (iii)another person who has caused the call to be made


(j)for a call made after 1 July 2007-the following information is to be disclosed:
(i)the source from which the caller obtained the telephone number or a statement that the source is a private induvidual
.........


At your call centre many people use pseudonyms which is a violation of a & b.
The purpose of the call is often misrepresented in violation of c.
Staff often do not give out contact numbers for your company when asked, the true name of the company they are calling from in violation of d & e, and there does not exist a protocol for handling or escalating complaints in violation of h.
Your staff frequently fail to disclosde the true source of the contact details of the call recipient and quite frequently misepresent the source of the contact details of the person contacted


(4)For a research call, the caller must:
(a)give or cause to be given, the information mentioned in paragraphs(1)(a) and (c) immediately after the research call commences.....

Your staff frequently (in my experience while overhearing research calls 100% of the time) misrepresent the company they are calling from and the reason they are calling for when making research and inteligence gathering calls.

5 (a) same as 4 exept for non research calls

8 Enabling calling line identification for a call
A caller must ensure that calling line identification is enabled all the time that the caller makes attempts to make a call, or causes the call to be made.

In my experience virtually all calls from GDS are made via the 1831 prefix to hide the caller ID.


http://www.acma.gov.au/webwr/_assets/main/lib100844/dnc_tis_standard_2007.pdf


With that in mind please take into account that any further harassment or persecution of myself will open a Pandora's box for your organisation. You may be able to intimidate your staff in the confines of your office but in a courtroom environment The Crown and Commonwealth of Australia are far more intimidating, and even your most loyal staff members will not be willing to purger themselves to save your hide.

I know you read this forum so please take note.