8194839679

Reçu cet appel tard cet avant-midi, ce F Tabnak semble avoir plusieurs numéros a partir desquelles il fait son télémarketing

Tuesday, January 8th, 2008
- J'ai écris ce document en anglais et je l'ai adressé comme suit :
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~ Conservative Party of Canada
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~ I've been receiving many phone calls from number :
819-483-9679
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~ Usually it hangs-up and no voice is heard but on this
day January 8th 2008, when I answered they were a one-two
second pause before the French voice ask me for my 'e-mail'
so to send me your party literature ahead of the future February
or March elections I decline to
give them this info and told them that I was counting on
the newspapers to inform me. After reading comments from my
past searches (you'll find these results further down) and this
French guy that was asking me my e-mail address (how would he
know I had such an address or a computer) I was suspicious an at
the same time I was shutting down my web access and when my
computer close down, this French chap seem to be in a hurry to quit
the telephone conversation.
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~ From the info that I pick-up on a earlier date from search
engine such as 'Canada411.ca' showed me this info @ :
http://canada411.yellowpages.ca/search/si/1/819-483-9679/Canada?nwn=1
Reported Phone Numbers in 1-819 Area Code
Phone Number 819-483-9679 / 8194839679 | 21 post(s) ....
Bell Canada …
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~ This lead result directed me to this link :
https://800notes.com/Area-Code.aspx/1-819
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~ From this lead, you can read comments from recipients that
have received this same phone call or other.
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~ These 'Anonymous' phone calls can hurt your image and hope
that these didn't come from your party.
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~ They weren't a name that showed-up with the phone number on
my telephone display.
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~ In the past, a web search in 'Residential Phone Numbers', gave me
a 'Residential Phone Number :'
*Tabnak, F
269 Rue Champlain
Hull, QC J8Y 4B1
(819) 483-9679
. . . and by calling this number it gave me a same info as described
on this search page :
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-819-483-9679
~ by the way you'll find lot more info that could lead
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~ So with all your governing powers, I hope you will contact the
authorities such as the :
*'CRTC,'
*'RCMP'
*and others such as your own 'Political Party.'
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Many thanks for your attention on this matter and hope to see
and hear action from your part and may be also posting your
answer, searches and results @ :
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-819-483-9679
. . . after all you are the 'Governing Party !'
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hope you will respect my confidentiality and identify me as :
'Anonymous 'CAB''
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and may 'God Bless'
Anonymous CAB
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I will be posting this document at different organisation such as
the above address and others, at certain addresses without my
complete personal info, if you know what I mean.
~ p.s.: My phone number is also on the 'Non Calling List,' for
all what is worth !
~ If this phone number shows-up as a residential telephone number :
*Tabnak, F
269 Rue Champlain
Hull, QC J8Y 4B1
(819) 483-9679
aren't they laws about 'Doing Business' from a residential telephone line !
Sent @ 3.15 on this January 8th, 2008

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Comme J Georges 'Mentionnais dans son exposé du 26 Nov 2007' et autres . . . «J'ai effectivement loger une plainte à la GRC. Je vous encourage à faire de même.» J'ai fais de même j'ai loger une plainte à la 'GRC'
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J'ai reçu une réponse que voici :
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Webmaster Webmaster <Webmaster@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
"Please report this to your local police service as this would fall
under their jurisdiction."
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Webmaster
National Communication Services
Services nationaux de communications
RCMP-GRC
1200 Vanier Parkway
Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
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>>> RCMP Website <webmaster@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> 1/8/2008 3:55 PM >>>
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Si ce n'est pas de 'LEUR JURIDICTION,' je me demande pourquoi ils sont là ?
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CRTC
Canadian Radio-television and
Telecommunications Commission
Reference number: 376079
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Thank you for contacting the CRTC. This is an automatic confirmation that we have received your message. If a further response is required, we should contact you within 10 working days. We apologize in advance for any delay that may be caused by the high volume of correspondence received in the CRTC.
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If your request is urgent, for example, if it involves the disconnection of your telephone service, please contact Client Services toll-free at 1-877-249-2782 and provide the above-mentioned Reference Number. If you use a TDD, you can reach us toll-free at 1-877-909-2782.
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Comme j'ai fais, P-L-A-I-G-N-E-Z---V-O-U-S également au :
CRTC
Canadian Radio-television and
Telecommunications Commission
Pour Loger Une Plainte au CRTC :
- » Français @ :
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/RapidsCCM/Register.asp?lang=F
- » Anglais @ :
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/RapidsCCM/Register.asp?lang=E
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et pas de réponse du 'Parti Conservateur'
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may 'God Bless'/ que 'Dieu vous Bénisse'
Anonymous CAB
819-483-9679 no name but a search gives :
*Tabnak, F
269 Rue Champlain
Hull, QC J8Y 4B1
(819) 483-9679
I call and answering machine request donation

Je viens juste de recevoir un appel moi aussi...819.483.9679... pour mettre fin à cela...Voilà ce que vous devez faire...Appeler Bell Canada et faites bloquer ce numéro simplement...

Le 15 janvier 2008, 16 h 25, mon conjoint a répondu à l'appel provenant du 819 483-9679. On (une femme) voulait me parler. Mon conjoint a dit que je n'étais pas là. Ce qui m'effraie dans tout ça, c'est que l'interlocutrice a demandé à me parler, elle connaît mon nom.

J'ai reçu ce e-Mail daté du 11 Janvier 2008
du 'CRTC':

Thank you for contacting the CRTC regarding your concerns. For your reference, here is a link to our Fact Sheet on the rules applicable to telemarketing activities. It explains how these issues are handled and recommends that you contact your telephone service provider for assistance. It can be viewed at:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/t1022.htm

The Commission expects telephone service providers to exchange information about their respective subscribers who are receiving unsolicited telemarketing calls or who are conducting telemarketing activities using their network or facilities. Ultimately, service providers can bring unresolved matters to the attention of the Commission.


IMPORTANT NOTE: Please do not reply to this message using the email address indicated above as we cannot receive e-mail at this address. To reply or to add to your submission, please click here and follow the prompts:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/rapidsccm/landing.asp?l ... 9744.7372427469

Sincerely,

Joanne Pilon
CRTC Client Services

1-877-249-2782 / télécopieur/facsimile (819) 994-0218
Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des télécommunications canadiennes / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2
Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission / Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2
Gouvernement du Canada / Government of Canada

J'ai reçu un appel de ce numéro hier-soir. Je n'ai pas eu de réponse lorsque j'ai voulu répondre

J'ai reç un appel de 1-819-483-9679 à plusieurs reprises sur le cellulaire de mon ami.  Le monsieur a demandé de lui parler et je lui ai dit qu'il était hospitalisé et il m'a demandé s'il était en faveur de Stephen Harper.  Je lui ai répondu "oui" que nous étions en faveur de Stephen Harper.  Il m'a demandé si j'étais intéressé de faire un don à son parti.  J'ai flairé une arnaque et je lui ai répondu que c'était mon ami qi prenait les décisions.

This time, the call connected and I finally got to talk to the person responsible.

She started by introducing herself as calling for the Conservative Party of Canada. I cut her off at that point and stated that I don't take calls from telemarketers and that I did vote Conservative at the last election, but if they call me one more time, I'll be sure to change my vote.

She quickly thanked me and hung up.

Lorsque j'ai répondu, la personne s'est identifié comme le Parti Conservateur. Je l'ai alors interrompu en lui disant que je n'accepte pas les appels de télémarketers et que j'avais voté Conservateur a la dernière élection, et que si je recevait un autre appel d'eux, je change mon vote a la prochaine élection.

Elle m'a remercié et a rapidement racroché.

j'ai appeler et ca dit  boite vocale pleine ''donation online ''. y'a pas moyer de tout bloquer le telemarketting c'est rendu que je repond pu au telephone venant de code regional que je connais pas c'est tu tanant . le telemarketting devrait etre tres severement encadrer pour ne pas tanner les citoyens .

Moi aussi j'en reçois régulièrement ...
et le ''hic'', comme je suis en Floride, je reçois ces appels sur mon cell. avec des frais d'itinérance à chaque occasion.
J'ai mon voyage, sans jeu de mots.
Que faire ?

On demande de l'argent ( 200$ ) Dire non

Moi aussi, j'ai recu au moin que deux appelles qui vienne de 819 483 9679.
Nous ne repondons pas quand nous voyons ce numero... they never leave a message and it feels like an invasion of our privacy.

Outaouais 22 Mars 20:00 ils ont appelé et je n'ai pas répondu. C'est un peu dégueulace d'échoeurer le peuple le vendredi soir après un semaine de travail les "petits" amis.  

A bon entendeur.

Salut!

Just received another call from the *ssholes. Line was quiet, then went dead.

I've also been getting calls from some scam about having won a free cruise, which asks for your credit card details to cover the cost of sending you the necessary document. This is a common cc phishing scam, and I'm starting to suspect that 819-483-9679 could also be such a scam. You should never NEVER give your credit card details to someone who calls you, specially with "unknown name" on the call i.d.

It's unbelievable that a political party would hire such an amateur to raise funds in such an irritating way which means that it's either a scammer trying to get your cc details, or an opposing political party such as the NDP trying to turn people off the Conservative. However since no apparent reply or statement has been made by the Conservative party, it's also possible that they may be behind it.

Next time you get them on the line, states that you cannot give your cc details to an unknown caller and ask for a phone number or an address where you can send your contribution.

Bottom line is, never give money to, or vote for people who annoy you.

Bingo! Got a call from 819-483-9679 and a person on the line. Started talking about the Conservative Party so I ask who he worked for. He replied RMJ Responsive Marketing Group, and he was askingfor a $200 donation to the Conservative party and stated that I should pay by credit card. I told him I was interested but I couln't give my cc details to someone who called me with "unknown name" on call i.d.. For security reasons, I have to call the person myself so he gave me: 1-800-420-7904

I googled it and all I got was a list of 800 numbers that have been anoying people. So I googled RMJ Responsive Marketing Group and got their web site: http://www.rmgsite.com and also this interesting article at: http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=00113  here's an excerpt:

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Former Conservative-turned-Liberal MP Garth Turner revealed that the Conservatives require MPs to input constituency office information into a consolidated political database system called Constituent Information Management System or CIMS. This led to controversy over whether the Conservatives breach privacy laws with this practice. Since they are not a business, however, they probably do not.

Political work is based on list-building. All political parties work with consultants and invest heavily in database technology. Turner's charges, however, raise questions about how that work is done by the Conservatives.

The Conservatives have used their money and their connections with US Republicans to develop a wide lead over their competitors in the field of "data mining" and voter identification. They are unwilling to discuss whether they have crossed any ethical or legal lines in terms of privacy rights or data sources and totally guarded about their data systems, and the people behind them.

One of their main leaders, according to a Toronto fund-raising consultant who asked not be identified, is probably Michael Davis, CEO of the Responsive Marketing Group (RMG), a telemarketing corporation that raises money for many of Canada's biggest charities. The company has become dominant in its field by guaranteeing client charities that it will raise funds for them, even though what the charity actually receives may represent a small fraction of total revenues raised in the charity's name.

Key to RMG's corporate operations is its ability to build contact lists of its own. Where most telemarketers simply appeal to charities' donor lists on behalf of the charities, RMG has strictly-enforced contracts that make these lists their property for their own use. "They've created vast databases of people that will give to telephone appeals," says the consultant. "It's part of their contracts that they own those names. Most telemarketers don't have the right to the names they contact, but these guys do."

RMG builds information files on each donor - files that are available for use in subsequent campaigns.

Davis formerly worked with fundraising consultant Craig Copland, the founder or co-founder of at least six Canadian charities that routinely spend 70 percent or more of contributions on telemarketers and other expenses, according to a recent Toronto Star investigation. These charities "exaggerate their good deeds, or outright refuse to say what they do with your money." Copland works closely with the telemarketing corporation Xentel DM. "Copland finds Xentel new charity clients. Xentel pays him royalties for charities sent its way. He also served on Xentel's board of directors until the Star started asking questions," the paper reported. Davis' RMG works in similar fashion.

"With RMG and Xentel, they'll guarantee money, but in effect you turn over your charitable tax number to them," says the consultant. "They can hide it in various ways." He says says, "Davis is smart. Three years ago he severed his connection with Copland," who is now drawing public heat.

Davis is well known in the fund-raising profession for the work he has done for conservative causes. He has worked for anti-abortion and anti-gun control groups, and also the Ontario Conservative Party under Mike Harris, which got in trouble for reporting payments of more than half a million dollars to RMG for telephone canvassing as polling expenses.

"In 1999, the company was phoning people across the province using the permanent electoral register that the Tories also introduced," wrote Robert MacDermid of York University in a paper called Changing Electoral Politics in Ontario: The 1999 Provincial Election

J'ai recu un appel de 819-483-9679 et la personne demandait une donation de $200 - $150 duquel ira au Parti Conservateur du Canada ($50 dans la poche du telemarketer) Je lui ai demandé pour qui il travaillait, et il m'a dit "RMG Responsive Marketing Group",

Une recherche google de  RMG Responsive Marketing Group j'ai trouvé leur site:: http://www.rmgsite.com 

Contacting the Responsive Marketing Group
For General Inquiries:
Please call: (416) 921-6595
or email: better@rmgsite.com
Our Mailing Address is:
505-1235 Bay Street
Toronto, ON M5R 3S9

et également cette article interessante (Anglais)  http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=00113  

Un extrait affiché ci-dessus.

voici une version francaise, traduite par Google (Moi qui a voté Conservateur, et avait l'intention de faire de meme dans la prochaine election. PLUS JAMAIS, J'en suis totalement écoeuré. Je préfère ne pas voter du tout:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http% ... r&hl=en&ie=UTF8
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Un de leurs principaux dirigeants, de Toronto, selon un consultant en collecte de fonds qui a demandé à ne pas être identifié, est probablement Michael Davis, CEO de la Responsive Marketing Group (RMG), une entreprise de télémarketing qui soulève beaucoup d'argent pour les plus importantes du Canada caritatives.  La société est devenue dominante dans son domaine en garantissant la clientèle des organismes de bienfaisance qui lui permettra de financer eux, même si ce que fait l'organisme de bienfaisance reçoit ne peut représenter qu'une petite fraction du chiffre d'affaires total soulevées dans le nom de la charité.

Où la plupart des télévendeurs simplement appel à des organismes de bienfaisance des listes de donateurs au nom des organismes de bienfaisance, RMG a strictement appliqué les contrats qui font ces listes de leurs biens pour leur propre usage.  «Ils ont créé de vastes bases de données sur les personnes qui donneront aux appels téléphoniques", explique le consultant.  «Cela fait partie de leurs contrats qu'ils possèdent ces noms. Télévendeurs La plupart n'ont pas le droit de communiquer avec elles les noms, mais ces gars font."

RMG construit des fichiers de renseignements sur chaque donateur - fichiers qui sont disponibles pour une utilisation dans des campagnes ultérieures.

Davis auparavant travaillé avec Craig Copland consultant en collecte de fonds, le fondateur ou co-fondateur d'au moins six canadiens de bienfaisance que l'habitude de passer de 70 pour cent ou plus des contributions sur les télévendeurs et les autres frais, selon une récente enquête du Toronto Star. " Ces organismes de bienfaisance "exagérer leurs bonnes actions, ou carrément refuser de dire ce qu'ils font avec votre argent."  Copland collabore étroitement avec la société de télémarketing Xentel DM. " "Copland trouve Xentel charité nouveaux clients. Xentel lui verse des redevances pour les organismes de bienfaisance a envoyé sa façon. Il a également siégé au Xentel du conseil d'administration jusqu'à la Star commencé à poser des questions", a indiqué le document. Davis' RMG fonctionne de la même manière.

"Avec RMG et Xentel, ils garantissent l'argent, mais en réalité vous mettez au-dessus de votre numéro fiscal charitable pour eux», explique le consultant. «Ils peuvent cacher de différentes façons."  Explique-t-il dit, «Davis est intelligent. Il ya trois ans, il a rompu ses liens avec Copland," qui est sur la chaleur du public.

Davis est bien connu dans le métier de collecte de fonds pour le travail qu'il a fait pour la cause conservatrice. . Il a travaillé pour les anti-avortement et anti-contrôle des armes à feu, et aussi le Parti conservateur en vertu de l'Ontario Mike Harris, qui ont eu des ennuis pour rendre les paiements de plus d'un demi-million de dollars au RMG démarchage téléphonique pour que les dépenses des bureaux de vote.

"En 1999, l'entreprise a été téléphonant gens partout dans la province en utilisant le registre électoral permanent que les Tories a également introduit", a écrit Robert MacDermid de l'Université York, dans un document intitulé Changing Electoral Politics in Ontario: The 1999 Provincial Election.

The telephone number called by the interviewer would have been matched to a name on the electoral register.  «Ces appels a probablement commencé comme quelque chose comme un sondage d'opinion: l'appelant peut-être même dit qu'ils étaient d'appel au nom d'une compagnie avec une recherche-comme le nom et procède ensuite à quelques questions par le biais d'un vote intention question. Le numéro de téléphone appelé Par l'intervieweur aurait été jumelés à un nom sur le registre électoral. Lorsque l'électeur vote indiquait une préférence, cette information aurait été entré automatiquement dans l'ordinateur. Le démarcheur peut alors passer au-dessus de la partie avec une base de données des noms Tory supporters, Adresses et numéros de téléphone pour être transmis à l'appelant pour les circonscriptions avec un rappel de vote le jour des élections. Bien qu'une partie de cette spéculation doit rester, car un porte-parole conservateur a refusé il, les éléments de preuve dans la partie campagne dépôts appuie fortement l'argument selon lequel la L'argent a été utilisé pour la prospection de téléphone ... Toute bonne réputation de sondage serait embarrassé d'appeler cette activité des bureaux de vote, car il ne commence pas à partir d'un échantillon aléatoire, pas plus qu'elle ne garantit des répondants anonymat ou de la confidentialité. "

RMG n'ont travail pour l'adhésion Tom Long campagne à la direction du parti l'Alliance canadienne, qui a ensuite été discrédité pour avoir vendu de faux adhésions.

Le consultant estime Toronto RMG a jeté les bases du gouvernement fédéral Conservateurs électeurs contact machine. "Je pense que RMG a une base de données assez bien tout le monde au Canada qui a des penchants d'extrême droite. Ils soulèvent une tonne d'argent."

Dans les années 1980, Davis a été associé à un scandale concernant la Fondation canadienne du foie.  . Subsequently they changed the name of the firm." Il a contribué à l'augmentation des revenus de la charité "à partir de $ 2 millions de dollars à 11 ou 12 millions», rappelle le consultant, «mais il ne convoya [de la charité] plusieurs milliers. RMG, qui s'appelait à l'époque autre chose, tout l'argent récolté, et il y avait Un gros scandale. Par la suite ils ont changé le nom de l'entreprise. "

For the English version above, here are the last few paragraphs of that article. The last paragraphs is very revealing, and disapointing for a party (Conservative) that I beleived to be ethical. They have just lost my vote as I'm totally disgusted.

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"Those calls probably began as something like an opinion poll: the caller may have even said that they were calling on behalf of a company with a research-like name and then proceeded through a few questions to a vote intention question. The telephone number called by the interviewer would have been matched to a name on the electoral register. When the voter indicated a voting preference, that information would have been entered automatically into the computer. The marketer could then pass over to the party a database with Tory supporters names, addresses and phone numbers to be handed on to the ridings for calling with a voting reminder on election day. While some of this must remain speculation, since a Tory spokesperson has denied it, the evidence in the party campaign filings strongly supports the argument that the money was used for phone canvassing... Any reputable pollster would be embarrassed to call this activity polling, since it does not begin from a random sample, nor does it guarantee respondents' anonymity or confidentiality."

RMG did membership work for the Tom Long campaign for the leadership of the Canadian Alliance party, which was later discredited for selling phony memberships.

The Toronto consultant believes RMG laid the foundation for the federal Conservatives' voter contact machine. "I think RMG has a database of pretty well everyone in Canada that has any right-wing leanings. They raise a ton of money."

In the 1980s, Davis was associated with a scandal concerning the Canadian Liver Foundation. He helped increase the charity's earnings "from $2 million to $11 or 12 million," recalls the consultant, "but it only netted [the charity] several thousand. RMG, which was then called something else, garnered all the money, and there was a big scandal. Subsequently they changed the name of the firm."

I want to correct the acronym mention in my English post. The right one is "RMG". My error is due to the fact that the conversation with "819-483-9679" was in French and G is pronounced like a French "J".

I found the Toronto Star article on this marketer "RMG Responsive Marketing Group":
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/273350

It confirms the details of the first article. That RMG Responsive Marketing Group keeps a chunk of the money they raise as their percentage. What I posted in French but left out of my English message above is that the caller  819-483-9679 clearly stated that if I would give $200, $150 would go to the Conservative Party.

So for every successful call, 819-483-9679 makes $50. The same "RMG Responsive Marketing Group" AKA-819-483-9679 works closely with an individual who has created numerous dubious charities that cooperates with RMG. That little arrangement has brought both tens of $million (Please read The Star article linked above).

And this is the outfit hired by the Conservative Party to collect funds. Incredible. As you can see, I'm still royally p*ssed off mainly because I won't vote for the other parties either as I believe in the Conservative platform. So I won't be voting period, as a matter of principles. Some of us still have some. GOD! I'm disappointed.