844-209-3167

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    #1grandma
    called and said they were a legal firm collecting for the BMG Group I have never heard of them I have taken out payday loans but none from them when you take out payday loans on the internet they send you to another web site so I asked who the company was they could not tell me. They said if I didn't pay it the would file a claim against me and I would have to go to court. I went though a payday validation company they were to take care of the payday loans so I should not be getting any calls from any of them. but they call day and night and if you ignore them they call and harass you reference I don't want them to call them so I answer. If I do really owe them I will pay them but I don't want to give them any money till I can verify that I really owe them but if they cant till me the name of the company I got the money from how can I verify that I owe it. I want the calls to stop.
    • Call type: Debt collector
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    Frigid
    | 2 replies
    Same thing here said that I made a loan back in 9/2011 and they need to collect today or they would garnish my wages. Checked my bank statement from the whole year of 2011 and no deposit for the amount they are claiming so I'm confused. Asked if they could send me documents such as the agreement to repay and they said they have already made attempts to get repayments and mailed that to me in 11/14. Don't remember that either. So when I asked what kind of payment plan they have and they said that i owe $2100 but if I agree to an electronic withdraw by calling the bank 3 way they would only ask for $460 or if i wanted to pay biweekly it would be $680 and they would take out $170 a week. With all the scams going on I don't see how they expect people to agree to pay over the phone and are not forthcoming with their information when asked. If i owe I guess I'll find out when they start garnishing my wages, fml
  • +3
    Yoda1725 replies to Frigid
    Your thieves are the wonderful Bahamas Marketing Group.  Just ignore them.
  • +4
    BigA replies to Frigid
    BAHAMAS MARKETING GROUP AKA ST. ARMONDS GROUP
    Posted in:  https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-264-8475
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    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-844-209-3167
    BBB page with 17 complaints and an alert that says they are no longer in business:  http://www.bbb.org/nebraska/business-reviews/ ... ha-ne-300035266#
    The address listed at the BBB is a virtual office.
    Some very revealing information on this web site including alternate names and addresses.  Anybody ever hear of BMG?
    http://www.online-payday-loans.org/contact-info/bahamas-marketing-group/
    http://www.online-payday-loans.org/contact-info/cutter-group-llc/
    http://www.online-payday-loans.org/contact-info/djr-group-llc/

    Seems they move around a lot this report has them in Maryland:
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Bahamas-Marketing-Group/internet/Bahamas-Marketing-Group-Ripoff-This-company-called-in-November-as-well-as-December-of-08-i-402715
    Some more complaints:  http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/bahamas-marketing-group-c202299.html
    http://forums.debtcc.com/forums/bahamas-marketing.html

    I found a Bahamas Marketing Group registered in Nevada, license revoked in 2011.  Owned by Joel Tucker.
    I recently found 4 Bahamas marketing Group list Joel Tucker as Director, President, Treasurer, and Secretary in Nevada DOS files:
    BAHAMAS MARKETING GROUP INC.
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    Business Entity Information

    Status:      Revoked    File Date:      12/30/2002
    Type:      Domestic Corporation    Entity Number:
    C32031-2002
    Qualifying State:
    NV    List of Officers Due:
    12/31/2011
    Managed By:
        Expiration Date:

    NV Business ID:
    NV20021513310    Business License Exp:
    12/31/2011

    Registered Agent Information

    Name:      NATIONAL REGISTERED AGENTS, INC. OF NV    Address 1:      311 S DIVISION ST
    Address 2:          City:      CARSON CITY
    State:      NV    Zip Code:      89703
    Phone:          Fax:
    Mailing Address 1:          Mailing Address 2:
    Mailing City:          Mailing State:      NV
    Mailing Zip Code:
    Agent Type:      Commercial Registered Agent - Corporation
    Jurisdiction:      NEVADA    Status:      Active

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    Financial Information

    No Par Share Count:
    100.00    Capital Amount:
    $ 0
    No stock records found for this company

    Officers       Include Inactive Officers

    President - JOEL TUCKER
    Address 1:      1489 WEST WARM SPRINGS ROAD    Address 2:
    City:      HENDERSON    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      89014    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Secretary - JOEL TUCKER
    Address 1:      1489 WEST WARM SPRINGS ROAD    Address 2:
    City:      HENDERSON    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      89014    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Treasurer - JOEL TUCKER
    Address 1:      1489 WEST WARM SPRINGS ROAD    Address 2:
    City:      HENDERSON    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      89014    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Director - JOEL TUCKER
    Address 1:      1489 WEST WARM SPRINGS ROAD    Address 2:
    City:      HENDERSON    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      89014    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Redmond Scott web page is blank.  This is all I found out about them:  https://www.aihitdata.com/company/014B473D/REDMOND-SCOTT/overview
    No BBB page, no Bizapedia Page.

    A Bizapedia search of Joel Tucker indicates that in addition to the BMG he owns Black Seas Investments, LLC http://www.bizapedia.com/nv/BLACK-SEAS-INVESTMENTS-LLC.html   and Authorize Express which is listed as dissolved also http://www.bizapedia.com/nv/AUTHORIZE-EXPRESS-LLC.html
    No BBB page on Black Seas.

    Nevada Department of State information:
    BLACK SEAS INVESTMENTS LLC
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    Business Entity Information

    Status:      Active    File Date:      7/6/2007
    Type:      Domestic Limited-Liability Company    Entity Number:
    E0489542007-4
    Qualifying State:
    NV    List of Officers Due:
    7/31/2015
    Managed By:
    Managers    Expiration Date:

    NV Business ID:
    NV20071205656    Business License Exp:
    7/31/2015

    Additional Information

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    Registered Agent Information

    Name:      AGENT SERVICES, LTD.    Address 1:      871 CORONADO CENTER DR STE 200
    Address 2:          City:      HENDERSON
    State:      NV    Zip Code:      89052
    Phone:          Fax:
    Mailing Address 1:          Mailing Address 2:
    Mailing City:          Mailing State:      NV
    Mailing Zip Code:
    Agent Type:      Commercial Registered Agent - Limited-Liability Corporation
    Jurisdiction:      NEVADA    Status:      Active

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    Financial Information

    No Par Share Count:
    0    Capital Amount:
    $ 0
    No stock records found for this company

    Officers       Include Inactive Officers

    Manager - NEREYDA M NUNEZ TUCKER
    Address 1:      5600 WEST 97TH STREET    Address 2:
    City:      OVERLAND PARK    State:      KS
    Zip Code:      66207    Country:      USA
    Status:      Active    Email:

    They were reinstated 2010.
    I also found a listing for a permanently revoked company called Global force Group, LLC.(Boy this guy seems to have a hard time keeping his companies open)
    GLOBAL FORCE GROUP, LLC
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    Business Entity Information

    Status:      Permanently Revoked    File Date:      8/16/2006
    Type:      Domestic Limited-Liability Company    Entity Number:
    E0621552006-6
    Qualifying State:
    NV    List of Officers Due:
    8/31/2007
    Managed By:
    Managers    Expiration Date:

    NV Business ID:
    NV20061229755    Business License Exp:

    Registered Agent Information

    Name:      INCORP SERVICES, INC.    Address 1:      2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE STE 400
    Address 2:          City:      HENDERSON
    State:      NV    Zip Code:      89074-7739
    Phone:          Fax:
    Mailing Address 1:          Mailing Address 2:
    Mailing City:          Mailing State:      NV
    Mailing Zip Code:
    Agent Type:      Commercial Registered Agent - Corporation
    Jurisdiction:      NEVADA    Status:      Active

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    Financial Information

    No Par Share Count:
    0    Capital Amount:
    $ 0
    No stock records found for this company

    Officers       Include Inactive Officers

    Managing Member - RICHARD J GARCIA
    Address 1:      3155 E PATRICK LANE STE 1    Address 2:
    City:      LAS VEGAS    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      891203481    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Manager - JOEL J TUCKER EVANS
    Address 1:      3155 E PATRICK LANE STE 1    Address 2:
    City:      LAS VEGAS    State:      NV
    Zip Code:      891203481    Country:
    Status:      Active    Email:

    Remember, when criminals such as these call, make sure they know that you are aware of your rights:
    Federal law (FDCPA) requires them to send you a letter (US MAIL ONLY) within 5 days of their first contact that contains their name, physical address, the creditor’s name, and the amount of the alleged debt.  It also must contains “mini-Miranda” telling you that it is an attempt to collect a debt and that all information will be used for those purposes.  The one other important thing that this letter must also have in it is that you have a right to dispute the debt within 30 days of the date of the letter and if you do so, all collection activity must be stopped until the debt is verified.
    Read up on your rights here, get template letters to send and also make a complaint at this government site:  http://www.consumerfinance.gov/
    Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General's office.
    List of State AG’s offices:  http://consumerfraudreporting.org/stateattorneygenerallist.php
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    t
    | 2 replies
    These people called my sister's phone before stating that I was avoiding them, so after I called them back and they told what was going on, I said, well you all keep saying that these papers keep coming back unsigned when no one has tried to serve me, so that asked my address and I then said, I have lived at the same place for the last 10 years. Figure it out.  So I just blew it off.  Next they call my job. This now is the last draw.  The embarrassment alone.  I remember paying off this debt a year ago.  These people make me sick.  I started questioning myself until I came to my senses and google the number.  When I did after they called my place of employment and gave this number (844-209-3167) to call them back.  The lady on the phone was very snotty. Granted I did not say very kind things the day before in a voicemail :-). So now that I know that this b.s. is starting up again, I know that I can rest easy and blow it off.  Is there a number that I can call to get this to stop?
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    Slim replies to t
    If you KNOW you owe no money, or believe the call was from a fake debt collector, please take the time to read this:
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0258-fake-debt-collectors
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    Tamianth replies to t
    Follow the steps in what you need to know below:

    To File complaints FDCPA/TCPA violations:
    Your State Attorney General
    Their State Attorney general
    www.naag.org (you can find your state AG at this link).
    https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1
    http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/
    http://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-guide/state-state-guide
    http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations
    Also with the BBB and follow completely through with it.
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/haunted-phantom-debt
    Seek a FDCPA/TCPA Attorney if need be.
    ***A company must be licensed in their state as well as the one they are trying to collect in if two different states are involved.

    Some Tips:
    *Keep all messages
    *Take a picture of your Caller ID
    *Keep any and all conversations recorded to your states recording laws, some require they be told, others do not. This can be transferred to a recording device.
    *Keep a notebook handy for writing time,date, who you spoke with and what the conversation detailed.
    *Check your SOL for your state as well.
    *Attorneys need to be licensed as a DC to collect, all DC's must be licensed in their state as well as yours if different.
    http://www.insideedition.com/investigative/93 ... debt-collectors

    https://800notes.com/arts/Jb8EW-eDhQA/harassi ... ou-need-to-know
    See Residents post here also:
    https://800notes.com/forum/ta-34af6a034ba34b6/unending-collection-calls
    Templates of Letters:
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-319-242-7350

    http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpajump.shtm
    http://www.consumerfinance.gov/askcfpb/search ...
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/pdf-0096-fair-credit-reporting-act.pdf
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection

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