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    AMERICAN replies to Richard Lime
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    WHY WOULD YOU POST A PERSONS SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ON A WESBITE STEPHEN ROGERS OR WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS.. IF YOU WERE ANY TYPE OF LEGAL BUSINESS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SUCH A THING. YOU ARE VERY BRIGHT AND YOUR BUSINESS IS A SCAM.. MY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!!!!!!
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    notgiven replies to Bob
    I've heard that the payday sites are brokers for more than one company and they send the info to several pay day companies who decide if you get a loan and these scammers are one of the 'companies.'   I've heard they operate bogus pay day sites themselves, no one gets the loan and everyone gets the calls or emails.  I've also heard of them getting their info from dating sites.  
    Anywhere you have put your information could be their source.  

    They could have paid an employee at some legitimate company to give them the database.  I've heard you can buy lists of people who have owed money without buying the debt and some of the domestic collector companies are working off those lists, which is why some people are getting calls on 20 year old paid off or discharged in bankruptcy debts from American accented people.   That is just as scammy if you ask me, but you may be able to sue those, unlike the Indian fake debt people.

    I read earlier this year that half of the fortune 500 companies still had computers infected with the DNS changer trojan, can you imagine how many instead have keyloggers or other malware?  How many data breaches have we read about in recent years?  That information is sold to scammers.  They could have your email or phone contact lists, credit card, bank account information, ssn, etc.  List all the people who have been called about you by these scammers and think, where did you put all that info?  Also, some of the info about relatives is freely available on the internet and then they can look up listed numbers for them.  Maybe you have keyloggers or remote access malware on your computer.  Consider a clean OS reinstall, if you can't be sure.  Make sure you keep your security software up to date and run scans regularly with multiple malware scanners, be careful which ones you download.  Check out their reputations, some are known to be malware or 'ransomware' themselves. Practice good internet hygiene, don't click on questionable links, ignore security warnings, open spam email, etc.  Scan any downloads with more than one malware scanner after googling the name of the file to see if there are any reports of malware associated with it.

    Be careful what info you give out and caution all your friends and relatives about it.  Tell them you are being targeted by scammers and they should never give or confirm info about you to anyone.   Take your own advice and never give or confirm info to anyone who calls no matter what caller ID says and no matter what the caller says, just hang up.  Don't answer numbers you don't recognize.

    Look at your social media profiles and remove or make visible only to you sensitive information, DOB, phone numbers, addresses, friends lists, etc and lock down the security and privacy on those so no one you don't know well can see your updates, including friends whose accounts aren't secure, consider not updating for a while.   Your friends friends and apps can probably see your accounts.  Look at all your apps, you don't know who is behind those.  Turn off the platform app on Facebook for ex.  At least go through your friends and followers lists and block anyone you don't know, look at your friends' friends  lists, use privacy controls to limit what most people see.  

    If your credit card company calls, hang up and call the number on your card.  If another bank calls, call the published number, whether you have an account there or not to make sure someone hasn't opened one in your name. If these scammers are targeting you, close your bank accounts and open new ones in a different bank.  Call your credit card companies and report your card lost so they issue a new account number.   Keep a close check on all accounts and dispute charges or withdrawals that aren't yours, in a timely manner by phone and online, follow up in writing by snail mail.

    Opt out  https://www.optoutprescreen.com/?rf=t
    Request your free annual credit reports by mail
    https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/requestformfinal.pdf
    If there is anything to dispute, you're better off disputing it from a mailed paper copy, they sometimes have info that the downloaded ones don't have and are the ones that are given out when someone checks your credit.
    If there are old or inaccurate addresses, first make sure all your legitimate reporting creditors have and are reporting your current address and then dispute the others by sending a copy of your picture ID and a copy of a utility or other bill with your current address.  Tell them to remove the old or wrong addresses because they are not accurate (not because they are old) and you are worried about identity theft.  
    Set a fraud alert, keep renewing it and consider a credit freeze
    http://www.equifax.com/answers/set-fraud-alerts/en_cp

    Change every phone number you can and get a Google Voice number to give out when you can't avoid giving a phone number.  Always unlist, unpublish your new numbers and make sure they are on the Do Not Call list.  Be really careful who you give your real numbers to and caution them to not share.  Anyone you can't count on gets your GV number instead or just use it for everyone.  You can decide for each and every contact how the call is handled by GV, down to which voicemail message they get or if it ever rings your phone.  Never call toll free or unknown numbers from any number except your GV number.  It's easy, you put in the number you want to call and choose which phone you want to use.  GV calls you first then the other party and the only caller ID info they get is your GV number.    I think on some Sprint phones you can use your phone number as your GV number.  GV has a recorder for incoming calls, enable it and use it when you think you need to.  Check the laws in your state to see when or if you are obligated inform the caller.  

    Consider going with a new phone company if you can, some people report that these scammers get their new numbers right away, could these people have had their smart phones hacked or could the scammers have a (possibly outsourced) mole in the phone company?  Maybe a prepaid 'throw away' phone bought with cash would be a good idea, if possible. Maybe you can get a phone on someone's family plan if they aren't on the scammers' radar.

    Tell your job about the scammers and caution them to never reveal contact, employment or other personal information about you to anyone over the phone.  In large companies they may want to send out a memo about it to all departments, they could have multiple employees who have already fallen for the scam and everyone needs to be aware this can happen so they can take steps to protect themselves.   Don't be embarrassed to share this info with anyone from your employer to your Grandmother.  This can happen to anyone, not just people who owe money or have taken out payday loans.

    It is also good practice to 1. never use your main email address for anything but email.  2. never use the same user name for more than one email account.  3. never use the same user name for more than one financial account 4. when you set up a recovery email address (for resetting passwords) make it an address you use for nothing else.  5 make it a habit to check every email address you have once a week so you don't lose access.  5 never use the same password for more than one account and consider the use of a password manager.  6 use two factor authentication where ever possible  6. don't store credit card info on sites you buy from, for things like iTunes you can buy gift cards to use.  7 never use the same email addresses that you use for purchasing or banking for anything else, like email or commenting on the internet, don't publish them anywhere or give them to anyone.  8 If your credit card allows one time use numbers, use them.  9 If you have accounts that you have to pay by draft or automatic card debit, consider using a dedicated bank account that you don't keep much more money in than you need to pay those bills, just enough to avoid low balance or overdraft service charges.  

    Read this article to see what else can happen if you aren't careful about information security
    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/all/

    Learn your rights
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.shtm  If a collector  doesn't send you snail mail with the information required by law within 5 days of first contact they are probably scamming or at least trying to collect a debt you are not obligated to pay.  If you can get a corporate address, send them a dispute letter asking for validation of the debt, mailed certified return receipt requested.  If the debt is not yours, paid, time-barred, discharged, etc, make the letter a full cease and desist, they are not to call or otherwise contact you at all about this debt.  You don't have to prove anything about it unless they try to sue you for it.  Then you answer the suit by the time specified, saying that it's not yours, paid, time-barred, discharged, etc, and show up in court with your proof.  If it is not you they are asking for invoke your rights under both the TCPA and the FDCPA in the cease and desist. You can sue under both. If you think you might owe it and it is valid make the letter a limited cease and desist telling them that all phone calls are inconvenient and you are to be contacted only through US mail.  Be sure to use the words 'cease and desist' and 'inconvenient.' Do not acknowledge the debt at all, on the phone or in writing, until you are sure it is valid, you are obligated to pay it and they are authorized to collect it.  If it is past the statute of limitations any acknowledgement can restart the clock. Just tell them it is unfamiliar and after you have received validation from them you will check your records.  Don't promise anything else. People have been dunned by different companies for the same debt, how do you know which, if any, really owns it or if they can prove it?  Document everything, every call, email, letter, etc and keep copies.  You may be able to sue if they are in the US.  Demanding validation may get rid of the collector, they can't legally pursue it without sending validation. If they continue or do anything else illegal, sue them.  

    Scammers don't obey any laws, though, so it won't help with them.  Gather all the information you have about them and file a police  report, report them to your state's Attorney General's office, the FTC and http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx  When they call, tell them you have reported them and you are recording them for the authorities.
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    Consumer replies to Bob
    | 1 reply
    "How do they have all your personal information [sic]"

    There are a number of different theories here and I believe that they are all likely.  The first and most obvious one is that some people did apply for online pay day loans, were denied the loans, and forgot about it.  The information that they supplied on these online forms was taken up by criminals that use the information to defraud the people who filled in the applications.

    We got these phone calls for a period of time some time back but no one here ever applied for a pay day loan, online or otherwise.  The calls did, however, start up within a couple of weeks of one of my housemates applying for and receiving a line of credit online with Dell.  The timing is suspicious.  I'm thinking that the information was either sold to these criminals by an unscrupulous Dell employee or that the information was captured after it was filled out.

    There's also the american debt collection industry:  Whatever 'assets' they have that can't be legally pursued get bundled up and sold to criminals overseas.  Encore bragged about using Indian phone banks for debt collection back in 2008.  I don't have the link handy, but if you google Encore Indian Phone Banks, you'll find the article.  If Encore was doing it, they all are.
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    Consumer replies to Consumer
    Here's the link:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/business/worldbusiness/24debt.html?_r=1

    Of course, this article makes it sound as though this were all a 'kinder, gentler, conservatism."  I find this insulting.  You can take this anyway you like.  But, the link is still there - Personal credit portfolio is getting passed on to foreign entities.

    Where else do you thing they get this stuff?  Especially when they call people, such as me and my housemates, who have never take out or even ever applied online or otherwise for a pay day loan?  

    All I can say is, well, follow the money.
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    English replies to AMERICAN
    Proof Read.
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    grliebop
    | 1 reply
    OMG...just received a phone call from this number too.  I was doing a reverse phone look up.  I was pretty nervous after listening to the voice mail.  Someone here said find out all you can about the people calling from this number...how do I do that?  I'm not computer savy. How do I file something with the attorney gen office?
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    michted replies to Give me a break!!!!!
    I got the same thing, one thing u have to remeber is these idiots put up fake payday loan sights and when u fill out one application it goes to hundereds of others and so therefore these fake payday loan places get the same thing so then steal your info and bankin info and try to make u believe you will be arrested,, you cannot be arrested for a loan no matter what they say, and the damn FBI isnt't gonna get involved with a petty ass loan either, they will do all they can to scare u to death to send them money whatever they say is bogus bull s** and just ignore it but of course always file a complaint with your police to stop these [***]
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    michted replies to grliebop
    dont let this scare you its all bullcrap and thats all it is they will do anything to scare u into sendin them money file a complaint with your local police along with a copy of the email and phone numbers
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    KrystalRose replies to Give me a break!!!!!
    I received the exact email this past Tuesday. And could not believe what I was reading. It had the same

    exact words as yours. I am glad that I did a search and read  your post about it. I had sent a reply back

    regarding making payment arrangements. And the payment amounts were the exact same also. Just different

    dates. Like I said I am so glad to have read your post. Thank You so much.
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    Cheryl Carlisle
    Got a call @ work form John Stevens ( did not speak good English), said the sos that he was with a law firm and that my social security had a complaint against it. I told him it is illegal to call someone @ work and that I am not stupid, if there was such a complaint I would receive something form the court. STOP THESE PEOPLE!
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    DJ replies to Give me a break!!!!!
    | 1 reply
    This is so crazy!  I've been getting emails from him threatening to take me to court.  I just got this today saying they are sueing me because I didn't pay:



    RE: Debt Email From EZ Payday
    x

    Rogers Stephen



    6:01 PM (3 hours ago)




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    to me

















    LA7009496302 is your case number. The Lawsuit has been filed. You will receive court summons, subpoenas and other legal documentations till October 19. Let’s face this issue in legal manner.
    We will see you in the court house. We are extremely sorry for the inconvenience but we didn’t receive appropriate response from your side on this debt. We understand your intention regarding your payment.
    Have a nice day
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    Lindsey replies to DJ
    I got this same email today! I keep emailing him back on things he's done or said wrong and asked him questions without ever getting a response, then I got this email. I told him I will be sure to bring all our emails to the courthouse and that I looked forward to seeing him there. There is nothing they hate more than when people don't give in and actually question them. Low lifes and sad excuses for human beings is all I have to say.
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    Sickofitall
    My favorite sentence - "...but please make sure you have someone to take you out of jail when the judge
    hears the case."

    I don't like the fact that they got the last 4 digits of my SSN correct.  The attached document was a nice touch though.
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    pandak4516
    I recieved this and since I took a loan out with a similar company I responded. They told me they couldn't do electronic payment and to go to radio shak and get a green dot card and send them the info.
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    Cannot be fooled replies to Angry as Hell
    These scammers are not middle eastern; they are in India and use fake English names.  They use Skype to mask their phone number.  DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM.  Simply respond that you are contacting the local police and FBI.

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