High-volume nuisance callers
- TeleVictim| 1 replyGreetings everyone!
I'm very glad to have discovered your site. My cellular telephone company accidentally led me to this site by suggesting that I Google search some of the 800 and 900 numbers which have been calling relentlessly as of late.
Needless to say, there was nothing my telephone provider could do to alleviate these un-solicited calls.
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So let's get started.
It occurs to me that these companies have far too much time on their hands. I see complaints involving the numbers which are calling me today ( Sept. 2012) going way back in your data base. In other words, the same offender, with the same number, for several years.
How many of you have this much free time on your hands?
Can we try something?
I imagine a world where many THOUSANDS of homeowners are in possession of their own freeware auto-dialer program. In this imagined world we would collect the numbers of the offending parties (as you've so diligently done here at 800notes). Then, the offensive numbers would find themselves added to an auto-dialing network which will relentlessly call them back.
This imagined construct should have the effect of a DNS (Denial Of Service) attack on a computer server. The nature of this imagined attack is to tie up the operating system of the affected party by continually sending requests for information......non-stop. It would be simple enough to test (in theory) if there is enough interest. Simply select one target company from which we all seem to be receiving calls, try out the idea, and see what happens.
After that, we could dump the idea on YouTube and let it go viral! LOL
My work is done.
I'm really not a crotchety old codger. In real life, I'm likely to give you the shirt off of my back if you really need it. I'm a small business man whose business has been crushed by the failing economy. I now only receive calls from scamster telemarketers trying to sell me GSA contract (application assistance), home loans, debt relief - all items which I have not requested and do not need. The volume has reached approximately 12 calls per day - often from the same organization.
I'm ready to reverse the playing field and posses the extra time and resources.
Does this idea or system already exist?
It cannot be illegal - simply because it is a reversal of procedures currently followed by telemarketers. They are not regulated or punished for their misdeeds and general waste of our time. And what's good for the whole gander must be good for the goose too! - PaybackYou have a good idea, even I wished at times we had an autodialer that dials back the numbers of scammers at different frequencies. It's not illegal to dial back. If I were to dial back, I'd dial back with a blocked number. Spoofing got banned. When spoofing got banned, the criminals started spoofing. I am not that sure with the robocalling law but I don't think robocalling back a criminal is against any laws. They should know how it feels to get jammed with calls. Unlike the ones being called, the losers who robocall and spoof numbers don't have a life. They dedicate their sad lives to constant lying and scam. The crooks who do the credit card scam can't handle return calls. Hence they spoof numbers but some of their numbers take inbound calls. The payday frauds accept inbound calls as well. Well since they are being deceptive, any person who gets threatened or bothered by them has every right to fight back without breaking any laws :-)
- notgiven replies to TeleVictimWhat most of the 'telemarketers' are doing IS illegal. They just don't care. Most are trying to scam people so a little thing like Do Not Call is no big thing. Many of these people are in other countries using voip and spoofed phone numbers. If you know how to find the IP address a call is coming from, please share.
- TeleVictim| 1 replyThanks for your thoughts.
notgiven,
I am currently looking into how to backtrack the voip calls. Things may look a bit bewildering from the outside, but we live in a closed system. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out. If a signal is sent from somewhere, it can be retraced.
I came back to share a little more of what I've found:
After calling one of the greatest offenders in the call log, I found that my number had been provided to them under (potentially) fraudulent circumstances.
Some random lady decided to go to www.lowermybills.com
When she filled out the application for services, she either mistakenly (or deliberately) gave them my business telephone number. The website which she visited has distributed her name (and my telephone number) to a vast web of lenders and other businesses.
So I'm taking one in the shorts for someone else's mistake or deliberate misinformation.
This is really a form of attack in and of itself - regardless of premeditation.
Tutorial:
When providing a false telephone number - to avoid telemarketing calls.........
I use my real area code (XXX) followed by the number 555-5555 - just like in the old movies. Works every time. - notgiven replies to TeleVictimI've done the 555-5555 or 555-1212 or 000-0000, sometimes the form is set up to reject it. I use a GV number if they insist, but I have had that rejected, too. I also feel sorry for 765-4321 if it exists in my area code. Then there is always 867-5309, but they are already getting hundreds of calls, so what's a few more. http://youtu.be/FkpGQUflBwU
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