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    navadin replies to Charlie Barrett
    Many legitimate customer service calls are contracted to the same companies who also make cold sales calls. Whats wrong with this statement!  re. "companies who also make cold sales calls". this type of call is illegal in most states as well it should be.
  • +1
    legal advice
    I asked some robo caller for legal advice...
    https://soundcloud.com/lewissiffer/scammer-robocall-pt-2
  • +1
    GregT
    I have a Verizon land line with simultaneous ring and I use nomorobo to block calls daily.

    I also use a ten year old telezapper for calls that are not yet on nomorobo.
    99% of the telemarketer calls are blocked.

    I also have an old fashioned answering machine, and my friends know to leave a message.
    If I know the person, I will pickup during the message.

    The best part is I do Not have to do any maintenance.
    Other nomorobo users are registering bad numbers for me. Thanks.
    P.S.
    NoMoRobo is a USA system for land lines with the simultaneous ring option activated.
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    voip user replies to carl
    nomorobo does support voip.ms - just go to nomorobo.com and sign up.

    You can also use the voip.ms caller id filter to block or redirect specific numbers, but I cleared out my 100+ filters after setting up nomorobo.
  • -1
    Stephen Barrett, MD replies to Jim-LA
    If a landline company refuses to enable Nomorobo, complain online to the Better Business Bureau. BBB complaints carry considerable weight because companies get an "F" rating if they ignore them. So they are forced to come up with an answer -- and it will cost them to have people do this.
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    Stephen Barrett, MD
    | 2 replies
    The biggest robocall offenders use Web sites to broadcast huge numbers of calls through the Internet.
    I wonder if there is some way to identify these providers and regulate them in some way.

    Another idea that would help would be to start a Wikipedia page on Nomorobo and to add lots of material to the  existing page on robocalls. Many of the things discussed on this bulletin board should be summarized so they can be efficiently accessed in one quick read.
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    Jim-LA replies to Stephen Barrett, MD
    | 1 reply
    VoIP calls can often be traced since they use the internet. There are currently four families of VoIP protocols: SIP, H.323 and H.248 based, and SIGTRAN.

    Tools such as Wireshark https://www.wireshark.org can be used to trace a batch of robocalls across the internet using pretty accurate traceroute/pathping type analysis. Scammers do their best to spoof IP addresses, just as they do phone numbers, but their “packets” usually contain originating data that cannot be hidden from the latest breeds of internet tracing tools.

    Nomo is one of those newer tools and I’m sure it has compiled a good deal of info about the scammers and their locations. Once this info is turned over to appropriate government agencies (including foreign) the scammers will have their hands full trying to escape capture and prosecution.

    The BBB can do little to motivate the Telcos to provide Nomo over their POTS landline services. The Telcos are within their legal rights under the existing Telecommunications Act of 1996 to NOT provide Nomo’s services on such landlines. Telcos consider POTS to be an obsolete technology that has been replaced by VoIP technology.

    I was a customer of AT&T and had a POTS landline for years. There have been too many attempts from the US Government to update the 1996 Act that have failed to pass Congress and I grew tired of waiting. So I switched to AT&T’s more expensive VoIP landline service so I could get Nomo.

    Those that remain on a POTS line should consider getting a call blocker to help protect them from the scammers.
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    Stephen Barrett, MD replies to Jim-LA
    I am aware that the BBB has no police power, but don't underestimate its potential usefulness as part of a campaign to persuade a company to change its business practices. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. But I have learned that it pays to push every regulatory button one can find. The article at http://www.quackwatch.org/15Ads/scraperpro.html describes how the North Carolina Attorney General and the BBB helped me persuade a fairly big company to stop facilitating robocalls to me and probably many other people.

    Jim:  I have a lot of ideas about how we work together to escalate efforts to reduce robocalls. I would love to talk with you. Please contact me: http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/bio.html
  • +2
    Stephen Barrett, MD
    One of my ideas for fighting robocalls is to persuade the VOIP companies to publicize Nomorobo. They should not only mention it but should facilitate joining through some sort of Web linkage. They could also add some sort of mention to their marketing strategy: "With our service, you can put an end to those annoying robocalls."  (They would have to be careful not to make this into a warranty in case it it is not 100% effective.) Today I began trying to reach a Vonage executive to suggest this. I don't know whether I will succeed, but it would probably help if other customers did the same.
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    Dan
    | 12 replies
    I've only been using nomo for 2 weeks and they've already grabbed 7 calls that people on here have complained about. We never answer numbers we don't recognize but I always come here to see who's trying to scam us. Nomo has let 2 automated calls come though, one from my doctor, the other the pharmacist. I'm disabled and really can't have my line tied up by some moron wanting my card number. I have Time Warner as a land line but you can only block 30 numbers, after that you have to decide which one to take off so you can add another and inevitably the one you take off will start calling again. I didn't like the fact the scammers got one ring to come through with nomo but now I laugh when it doesn't ring again, I know nomo snagged one. I'll recommend this to anyone with a land line that was having the problems we were. Sad the private sector has to do what the government won't but that's a different rant.
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    Rich
    Nomorobo calls is great. It automatically hangs up on 75-80% of robo calls that I get. You can always report a number to be added to the blacklist they use. The only down side if your carrier doesn't support simultaneous ringing. You can always check on the site to see if they your carrier is listed and if they support nomorobo call. I highly recommend it to anyone if there phone service supports this service and the best part is that it is free.
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    Slim replies to Dan
    | 1 reply
    >> Sad the private sector has to do what the government won't but that's a different rant.  <<

    No need for that rant, since the government IS trying to do something about robocalls, in addition to the anti-robocall laws already passed.

    Interesting news about what the government is doing about robocalls:
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/features/feature-0025-robocalls

    Getting calls from Rachel of Card Services?
    Read this:
    http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases ... wn-perpetrators

    Recent update ...govt forces "Rachel" to pay cardholders!
    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/rachel-cardhol ... ory?id=28282514

    and this update:
    http://www.ftc.gov/zapping-rachel

    and this NEW FTC contest, inviting YOU to find a way to reduce robocalls:
    https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-release ... legal-automated

    and this summary of what the FTC is doing about robocalls, and what YOU can do as well:
    http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0259-robocalls

    Even more info:
    The FTC recently stated that phone companies can block robocalls, if they wish:
    http://consumerist.com/2015/01/27/ftc-totally ... alling-numbers/
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    BigA replies to Dan
    | 7 replies
    I guess you failed to notice that this service was built because the FTC had a contest and paid money to the winner?  Is that the sort of "do nothing" you were referring to?
  • +1
    LCFREE
    I have been using NOMOROBO for several months now.  It works like a charm.   The best part is that we used to get anywhere from 1-5 calls a DAY almost exclusively from various contractors who are "going to be in our neighborhood giving estimates" and solar companies.   Since NoMoRobo, all have been blocked.  Calls from bank and pharmacy have gotten through as well as calls from our relatives who have a blocked number.    The unanticipated and very best part is  that the robo calling companies delete your number from their list after awhile.  So, now we get maybe one or two calls a week.  Thank you NoMoRobo!
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    Debra
    | 9 replies
    Don't get distracted folks. Keep you mind focused on the goal of being vigilant. Set up a date to sign up for nomorobo, buy call blocker. Boiler room and dc scammers are getting really bad.
    If you drop the ball it will be very hard to get back your peace of mind.