Endless Google Calls from Local Lighthouse - GOT 'EM

  • +23
    Herman
    | 7 replies
    Phone rings, ONCE AGAIN its a recorded message telling me for the twenty fifth time today that I need to get my webpage optimized and placed on google's front page listings. My call blockers do a fair enough job of knocking out most of these incessant calls but today, this one got through.

    "If you're the owner, press one now..."   so I did.

    I was transferred to a pleasant young lady who wanted to verify my business name, phone number, address and all the standard preliminaries. She went on a bit about how my page was sorely lacking and would definitely benefit from their services. She had neither asked me for my webpage address or even got the business name I provided correctly but why should that stop her?

    While she was typing and doing whatever it is she was processing, I asked her for the name of her company and website address. She told me to open a browser and simply type “The Best Local SEO Company” in precisely that way. “Yes” I said, but what is the web address? She responded by saying that if I type in exactly that phrase I will find it easily. Well, I couldn't find it and referenced a second company that clearly thought they too were the best but she corrected me and told me to type the phrase the way she said with no http at the beginning and to space each word. We went around and around for a few minutes but she never told me the actual name of the company. By doing a variation of the phrase, I was able to come up with “Local Lighthouse” as in http://www.locallighthouse.com/

    When I asked “are you local lighthouse?” she responded YES! Exactly! Then why didn’t you just tell me that in the first place? “We want our customers to KNOW they are dealing with the very best!” she said. Oh, was my response. How can your customers know that and find you if you won’t even give a straight answer as to what the name of your website is? I asked. “You found it, right?” she said in a very non-confrontational tone. I left that argument there.

    We continued with the contract process, she asking for an email address, which I provided. We chatted a bit and I asked where they were located. Orange county, CA she said and continued with her sales pitch. She made it sound like it was more a completed deal than a negotiation. She rattled off a list of the “services” locallighthouse would be offering; web design, search engine indexing, social media links and a very strange service – Tax and Legal networking to name a few.  “You’ll have access to a lawyer anytime you need one!” she stated. “For what reason?” I asked. “You know, just for anything you may want.” she responded. I was still a little fuzzy about that part but she moved on to all the other wonderful features that awaited me – All for an initial charge of $199 for one month and then a continuous charge of $99 a month thereafter.

    After a few more minutes, the sales pitch was complete. “So! Will you be paying by credit card today?” the eager voice asked. Well I really can’t say. There’s so much to take in. I think it would be best if you draw up the contract, email it and then invoice me in the event I decide to take the deal. She was a little discouraged but agreed and emailed the contract.

    They used a service called Docusign, an all-electronic document processing service to handle the paperwork. I could see the contract but only in a very dull gray/brown overlay. It was constantly prompting me to agree - that by clicking yes, my electronic signature would be legal and binding from this point further. It was also the only way to allegedly see the document properly. It did offer a decline button but that voided any chance of the contract being valid and when I did indeed click on it, I was informed immediately that the contract had been cancelled. It then prompted me to provide an explanation to locallighthouse as to the reason why the contract was declined.

    She obviously had no idea I declined, asked when I’d be finishing the contract and I informed her the “boss” will need to make the final decision on that. “Wait!” she said now disheartened. “You mean you’re not the boss?” “I thought you said you were.” “Sorry, I’m just the guy who sweeps up around here, you’ll have to wait for his approval.” I could absolutely sense a wave of disappointment and I will say, (for just a minute or two), I felt bad about leading her astray. However, she called me! She works for this organization and knows full well what the consequences of making calls like this may bring. We parted with her half-hearted comment that she’d be calling the boss later that day – a call which never did come. Hopefully, this may stem (at least temporarily) the huge amount of endless calls from this organization that my office receives daily.

    Through the magic of technology, I was able to salvage the potential contract and offer it for all to see.

    Click or paste:  http://s24.postimg.org/q2mztdjhh/LD0001.png

    Some browsers will allow you to click on the document to see it much closer.

    A few of you regulars may now see my actual name, company and address!  ;-)
  • +9
    Nick
    | 2 replies
    Herman,

    Way to go - my experience w/ the 15+ Local Lighthouse robocalls is that after Pressing "1," they are super, super vague about their identity until they believe they have a new customer. The robocall itself naturally doesn't mention LL and their 714 area code/Orange County phone #. And if you want to sue them, getting them to email their contract = great evidence at trial. They ignored my CM-RRR letter confirming the robocalling, requesting their written dnc policy, and asking to have my # recorded on their internal dnc list [it's doubtful they have one].

    One request - which spoofed # showed on your caller ID?
  • +13
    Herman replies to Nick
    | 1 reply
    Thanks Nick!

    Yes, neglected to mention the spoofed number of the day from these clowns:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-202-735-3579

    They come from every eastern area code under the sun 'round these parts. Hopefully, one day, "The Man" will come storming in that place and shut 'em down!
  • +13
    Anti-Mugu
    | 1 reply
    get them to send you a contract in scrimshaw.
  • +14
    Herman replies to Anti-Mugu
    FABULOUS!  You know the secret but DON'T call me Ishmael   ;-)
  • +12
    I-M-Gullible replies to Herman
    Nice job Herman.
    Thanks for sharing you're experience with the #1 promotion co.
  • +11
    PookieOokie replies to Herman
    Herman, well we know you told her you were just the swabbie but did you tell her your boss' name was Mr. Dick? I cannot believe she did not get it. Ah, today's youth. Great job and a great laugh! You are the best! [:]
  • +9
    psy
    Nice trophy, Cap'n!
  • +8
    Resident47 replies to Herman
    I'm sure the Bunker family heirs will be very pleased with your thoughtful gift of this ... errr, service. Maybe Stephanie could use it for a second career since at age fifty even the "smart mom" roles in health care TV spots have dried up.

    } She told me to open a browser and simply type “The Best Local SEO Company” in precisely that way.

    So many head-shakers, so little time. The talkoff script says to open a "browser", not a search engine, which will naturally lead some to try the phrase as a URL. Trying the exact phrase myself in my engine of choice, it's like standing in the French Quarter in search of "the best bread pudding". Turn in any direction and a shop window sign will make the identical claim as its neighbors. This cutesy -- and failed -- demonstration of search voodoo is seriously crippled by reliance on a specific string, which seems counter to the whole point of "optimization". This is even before we account for the observation that search results are not entirely parallel for each engine, browser, IP address, or device being served the request.

    My favorite search hit from the un-magic phrase has this to say: "We are proud to say ourselves [sic] as the best local SEO Company in USA [sic] because, [sic] we have proven track of records [sic] in gaining first position for our client websites ..."
  • +8
    Badge714
    When things like this show up on 800 notes - it's the wow factor. I wish we had a permanent section on the site to post things like this for all to read. Email headers, copies of fake checks, phoney paypal invoices, 419 letters from despot Nigerian Princes. What's not to like? My brother gets at least 1 a week email of 'oh! you have a problem with so-and-so, click here'. Yeah. Not gonna happen. Thank you very much Herman for sharing that. First thing I read on the site today. All's good.
  • +7
    Herman
    Well thanks youse guys!

    @Res47 - Little girl and Meathead will be appalled when they start receiving non-stop written correspondence from these folks. I wanted to know and forgot to ask LL if their legal services would have allowed me to sue them!

    @Badge - I could possibly setup a publicly-accessible archive for these kinds of documents on my aux site. That would be easy and I've got the bandwidth. If there is any real interest, that could happen.
  • +5
    Nimrod
    | 2 replies
    Gee, why am I not at all surprised that there is a UPS Store at the exact address they list on their contract?
  • +8
    Sir Bedevere replies to Herman
    Brilliant work, Herman! I love your chosen name and business :-)
    My phone logs here show 17 calls from 202-735-3879 for May through November of last year. It's only one digit off the number you give and I think it may well be the same people. I expect they're getting phone numbers from domain registration records.

    EDIT - I just checked the 800notes.com page on 202-735-3879 and there's no mention of the Google listing scam. Probably just a coincidence.
  • +5
    MJG
    Very interesting!!

    McAfee  called the website (invoice copy) very suspicious - are you certain you want to go there.
  • +4
    Yoda1725
    There is a heavy metal band called Mastodon, and they have an album called Leviathan.  The album's theme is about Moby Dick.

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