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- Old Piss new Bowl replies to BlakeHarass and sexually bully female trainees (check).
Steal leads from fellow partners (check).
Dehumanize yourself and the honorable profession of sales (check).
Cheat and lie about circulation and leads and con honest hard working businesses out of their coin (check).
Come to work coked out paranoid thinking some trainee is stealing your girlfriend (another trainee) so you fire them as quickly as possible with those Red Eyes of yours (check).
If you sound cynical its not because you are, its because you are trained to be and you work for the right set of guys at GDS. Another Company to consider (where you can do your six months) is Jims new one cos your arguments and Spin remind me ever so slightly of Mr.Raven. - Same GDs crap different day replies to Your idioticness.Yeah Yeah Yeah same arguments from GDs 'whatever we is OK just look at the money'...etc etc etc
Man you lot are your own worst enemies because you can't see it coming straight back at cha!
Catching managers on the wrong day does not explain anything! Hating on secretaries who are doing a real job doesn't cut it also.
The word is out and you can't stop it... - tossers
- Australia GDSThey have an office down here in Australia,
Any complains for the down under? So far here in Sydney they don't have a nasty rep.- Caller: 2129208181
- interested..... replies to M&MTell is more.
- hahait seems their plans are working, people are posting less and less on the forum now.
- Caller: gds inter
- Call type: Debt collector
- Hatchet HarryReport UK GDS International Ltd scam here with these guys now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Companies Investigation Branch
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/guidanceleafletspdf/cibinfo.pdf
SHUT THEM DOWN!!- Caller: GDS International
- Call type: Telemarketer
- Hatchet HarryThe bottom line is this:
Regardless of the fact that GDS's products (publishing or events) may be beneficial to some clients, the sales tactics employed are clearly unethical and some illegal.
The FTC has regulations regarding cold calling prospects in order to make a sale:
- The salesperson must identify their company (not a company alias but the specific company or publication), that it is in fact a sales call and what they intend to sell.
- A salesperson cannot lie on the phone (ie. say someone reccomended them who did not, that they are working with someone who has not yet officially agreed to be a part of the project, that it isn't a sales call, saying people are attending an event or sponsors are confirmed that have not committed yet, that there are only two positions available when there are not etc. etc.) Also, you cannot say you are a consultant when you are not, if someone asks what GDS does, you must say "we are a publishing and events company"
- A salesperson cannot misrepresent what they intend to sell (falsifying content, circulation, participants, sponsors, contributors, etc. to make it seem like a better fit to the prospect)
- If someone asks not to be contacted, they must be put on a do not call list, and it is illegal to contact them again (GDS does not have a do not call list, in fact, they do not even have any CRM or Sales/Contact Management system in use.
- A do-not call list is required by law, and it is required by law that it is enforced (again, GDS does not have a do not call list)
You cannot lie to get someone's cell phone number. You cannot call their homes and lie to their familes. You cannot call their work and lie to their employees. Saying you are someone you are not on the phone to get someones private information is fraud. It is a felony, and though the company would get fined and charged with other offenses, the salesperson would be charged in this case and could potentially face jail time.
Not following these rules and regulations is not only unethical, but against the law. So the question is not whether GDS's products are good or bad, but if you want to work with a company that has no problem breaking the law and taking part in unethical activity.
This is no blame to the employees, many of whom are fresh out of college and have no sales experience. I give them the benefit of the doubt because of their naivity. The blame falls on an organization who not only encourages, but insists on unethical practices and misleading clients. In fact, if a salesperson refuses to follow suit, they will surely be terminated.
GDS will argue, in an attempt to win their employees support, that this is in fact how business is conducted in sales and that everybody does it. This is not true. Certaintly they are not the only ones using unethical tactics, but that by no means makes it right, nor would this argument hold any weight in the court of law.
They should focus on training sales staff to become better salespeople instead of better liars. Almost anyone can lie, not everyone can sell.
Clearly GDS is a companay that is around for the quick buck. Companies looking to grow and withstand time do not operate like this. Eventually, they will face legal consequences and be shut down, but the people at the top (ie. chairman, ceo) will still walk away with their pockets full. My sympathy is for the employees who are being strung along, who are being fed a fake dream, who will leave with nothing but a stain on thier resumes which wont count for anything in the world of real business.
I encourage employees to take this information to heart, do not take my word for it, reaserch these laws and regulations for yourself. And ask yourself: Is this something I want to be a part of? Is it something I want to tarnish my future with? Is it something I want to go down with? Do I want to face these charges when the law eventually steps in? Everyone is accountable for thier actions and I can assure you that management will not be extending a hand when it all falls down.
There is currently a case being built against GDS, surely they can charge them with a number of things right now, but time is being spent in order to shut them down permanently and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. Walk away now, before you can't walk away at all.- Caller: GDS International
- Call type: Telemarketer
- Bill| 2 replieshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruK08K6rRw4
This is just the beginning - check out http://www.gdsinternational.com/ - if you have dealings with anyone, make sure its with the CEO Spencer Green - tell him what a false, disgusting and rude company he has built.
I get 4 calls a week from one or another of their 'worldwide' offices (boiler rooms) - one of their gullable just out of uni kids calling me pretending to be a trumped up exec. - put the phone down and save yourself the time and inconvenience.
Horrible bunch the lot of them, trained by con artists to be con artists. Name and shame: Ollie Smart, Ryan Minshall aka Giggsy, Darryl Huff, Will Troutan, Debbie Chambers, Tony Arumugan, Kash Hassan, Harlam Davies, Selena Pargba, Jason Devon, Jason Green, Christian Morato, Dan Maggs, Ashley Palmer, Ryan Page, Roachy, Nick Roberts, David Pruett, Nick Coleridge, Dean Devon, Shahir Ahmed, Ben Riggle, Rich Llewelln, Tom Portingale, Jamie Matinelli, Carl Bax, Kieran Berkley, Laura Williams, Ben Thompson, Richard Owen, Max Ford, Elliot Lee, Rich West, Saf Chio, Farai Musa, Nick Ancell, Yuliya Sadykova, Jemma Pike, Pramel Shah, Fay Bednall, Matthew Rivoir, Edward Taylor, Sophia Loannidis, Joe Aglio, Carl Pflanz, Heather Briden, Amarinder Bajwa, Caitlin Kenny, Matt McCaffrey, John Contreras, Neil Mace, Abi Labaton, John Funnell, Aaron Marshall, Nick York, Sameep Nankani, Tudor Williams, Tom Parker, Dan Mikhailov, Hannah Edmunds, Josh Carpannini, Julie Pantoliano, Matt Rivoir, Ray Davies, Dave Edler, Gabrielle Hess, Tom Mayn, Rich Hemmens, Kieren Crawford, Phil Many, David Corr, Matt Waring, Bill Doll, Connor Duffy, Dave Cook, Gareth Jones, Natasha Fourie, Natalie Gould and many many many many more from the global hot house.
DO NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE, THEY DO NOT HAVE A BPA AUDIT, STUART WILKINSON MD EMEA FOR THE AUDIT HOUSE - PLEASE STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING ANYMORE - STOP GDS INTERNATIONAL FROM RIPPING OFF COMPANIES ALL OVER THE WORLD CLAIMING THEY'LL DELIVER SOMETHING FANTASTIC, THEN NOTHING! A LOAD OF MADE UP, LOCALLY SOURCED BULL.
Sue them every opportunity you get, publish nothing with them, don't get drawn into their summits, its ALL LIES!!- Caller: GDS International
- Call type: Telemarketer
- TheRedlineGDS were also involved in Online Casinos back in 2000, the company was slammed for its somewhat suspicious results.
It was later revealed that GDS were able to manipulate the results via a trigger in the Casinos Code, suffice to say that the project was short lived.
The statute of limitations on fraud starts once the fraud has been discovered, and we have a contact that worked on the Casino that still has all the code.. I am sure we can convince them to release it if anybody is willing to build a case against this company. If that code got out, it will not only destroy them, it would mean serious jail time.- Caller: GDS International - GDS PUBLISHING
- Call type: Telemarketer
- ex gds employee replies to BillI worked for GDS for almost a year!!! and if im honest i enjoyed it for the first few months, the people were nice and there were some good perks, eg, free bar on fridays, early finishes, etc. Trouble is once you have been there long enough to know exactly what they are all about, thats when you can't find the motivation to stay....Im not going to list names of people that work there because i made some good friends(of course there were people i thought were absolute tossers aswel) but what i will say, this is not the place to work if you want a genuine legit career. These people are trained to rip people off and are given weekly training sessions just to make sure their lying and conning is being used frequently. Its funny to watch all the young, unexperienced people walk in and think its the best job in the world just cuz every now and again (if you;ve hit target of course) the SD gets a crate of beer out on a fri afternoon to reward all the staff for their "hard work" AKA ripping the absolute [***] out of innocent people and companies!! You have to stand up for the duration of the whole day like animals, just because they feel you should be on youre feet while youre selling with loads of energy and enthusiasm...etc, what a load of [***]!!! Managers think they are the absolute bollocks, just because their on a decent salary and get to tell their team of 4 or 5 innocent execs to keep conning, keep lying, keep dialling until you get a deal....and when you get a deal i will give you £100 cash!!!-or something along those lines, and of course telling this to an innocent graduate of 18,19 thinks hell yeah, what a wicked job, and spends the rest of the day making out they are someone they are not and lying through their teeth just to get a ceo on the phone and sell them something that doesnt exist, which is why GDS can afford to pay such ridiculous commissions. I did a few deals while i was there, but at the end of the day money isnt everything and i would rather work for a company that was legit and didnt treat their staff like animals then make loads of money. You wont be happy working for this company, unless you have no morals and are willing to put up with their [***]. If youre going to apply to this company, good luck. i guarantee you will not be there long....a bunch of con artists and coke heads, the most crazy place i have and will ever work! cant fault them for some sales experience though...although if its sales youre after...visit a normal sales recruitment site, stay away from GDS!
- Yawn.| 6 repliesBla blah blah. There are posts here from years ago saying "this business is not sustainable" or "they will get shut down soon" or "let's all report them to the authorities". Spencer Green must have this under his favourites tagged "Bitter Ex Employees - Look here for a laugh". I mean seriously this is a forum for people who have been phoned from GDS and have an issue; not a bunch of trolls who couldn't cut it crying their eyes out. Have some respect for yourselves...
- Anonymous| 6 repliesI got a job at GDS as an International Sales Executive recently - in the most unprofessional way I might add. The HR Director and Sales Director were out on the p*ss and God knows what else when they started chatting to me and gave me a business card. From calling them initially to hearing I got the job was about 24 hours, and I was sent through my contract via email (which I thought was odd). I was alerted to this website before I started, and thankfully I had some idea of what to expect when I had my first day.
Everything that has been mentioned on this site truly does happen. Thankfully, I was "let go" after 3 days of training because apparently my attitude didn't suit the role. I say thankfully, because I was already wary, and after 2 days of being told to basically scream down the phone at people and lie through my teeth to get people's direct numbers and cellphone numbers I was unbelievably fed up. Thank you, to certain people at the office for "letting me go". You are all lying, thieving cheats and scumbags who are addicted to the money and the hideous drink and drug-taking lifestyle they have there. Thank you, for letting me go before I became one of them. - Yawn. replies to Anonymous| 5 repliesNo one is gonna take you seriously mate... You read this website then went for the job, then you weren't good enough so you decided to say that it you wouldn't have wanted to work for them anyway!?! Lol. This board us full of jokers, summed up by this guy here. Wasn't good enough, got told he didn't have what it takes and is now on here crying and being bitter. Great read.
- Always be Closing replies to Yawn.| 4 repliesGood Spin I'll give GDS foot soldiers that!
So what does it take really?I mean really? and none of that HR crap or ROI lets be for real if you can?
Then I'll tell you only from my own limited experience how we scored numerous deals weeks after weeks on made up mags like FST and which lie worked IN which week --just ask your Worldwide (not Global) sales Director! Then off to the pub we go laughing celebrating high- proud to be Spencer's little children and how we bypassed a secretary by claiming we're calling from the hospital about a personal matter, or how we suckered an IT guy by saying we're with the EU, or that we have an Article from a leading expert with Gartner and even phoned Companies who advertised with them based on fake endorsements from Nick M.
Look at all the people that left (and were scorers, managers from CEO Jim. to Glen, HR, Owen, Ian, Zig, Batsy, to countless, countless others)...no one almost no one ever last there! Before you know it- it will be you.
Out of hundreds and thousands of students and youngsters that had the displeasure of working in this non professional Boiler Room wannabe fake Company a lot were let go for the wrong reasons, a lot had legitimate ethical questions, many couldn't handle the hours and the pressure, few got stitched up, bunch just lost interest, dozens lost their streak and confidence, but everyone some how after the brain washness fades comes to realize what GDS is and what it isn't!
Carrying on Spinning because the day you loose your touch you then have to look for a real job! - Spencer Smart replies to Yawn.| 2 repliesEverybody can benefit from the info...People who get calls, ex employees that made them, even GDS itself can get awareness. As far as Spencer goes don't think he is laughing when most office numbers are down and when you type GDS the next word suggested is Scam!
There is good quality, verifiable info on them, on their standards, procedures, tactics, antics on numerous pages from Rip Off. com to Youtube and others were ex business partners, ex employees post. And when it comes to shutting down and all that all in a good time, all in good time, because GDS are good at swimming in the [***] and not drowning but then again so are cockroaches! - Truth Always Sets Free! replies to Yawn.| 2 repliesI love this line ''Have some respect for yourselves''... especially when you really embrace the Irony and hypocrisy of it all....to be in any way associated with an organization like GDS Publishing you can't EVER possibly ever talk about self respect...they;re complete antonyms...... In fact this blog is the therapeutic way of getting some back..try it- see what a little truth sometimes feels like!
- Yawn replies to Spencer Smart| 1 replyIf there is all this 'evidence' they would have been shut down. You people are like a broken record. And citing an American News Report on YouTube (in which GDS actually comes off quite well) is ridiculous. Especially when anyone who knows the Yanks know that they love gross sensationalism. A lawyer wouldn't even take that case in the UK.
The fact is that anyone reading this site can soon see that it's bitter ex staff. It's a great read but 90% nonsense. And people like yourself need to get over the rejection and move on with your life. - Yawn replies to Truth Always Sets Free!| 1 replyI'm guessing you got the sack too mate. Unlucky. Plus I'm not sure what you are saying makes sense... Read it back to yourself. Maybe without a drink in your hand. You are the best type of ex employee in here, the ones who like a litle punchy line like; "You can't handle the truth GDS!!!". Lol. Classic. Keep up the good work, the more people like you post the better this blog gets.
- Yawn replies to Always be Closing| 3 repliesFirstly I don't work for GDS anymore; however it's natural for you to assume that because I'm not bitter. Secondly it takes what you obviously don't have which is why you got the chop and are now so bitter. You being bitter is the theme here.
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