7135797000

due to ur ignorance, u probably missed out on a beautiful settlement. what does it matter to you if they got you a sif too fast. you are slow as hell, if that is the only reason why u didnt pay your own bill. im tired of people looking for reasons not to pay. there is nobody trying to take your well earned money. you spent money on a credit card. how the hell is that hard earned money.... yes there are some bill collectors that are scums, but debtors that think the law protects them from having to pay their bills are even worse scums... the truth hurts

Text of a voicemail message from caller ID 713-579-7000:

"This message is intended to reach Henry G_____.

"If you are not Henry G_____ this message is not intended for you.

"Do not listen to the rest of this message.

"If you continue to listen to this message you are acknowleding you are Henry G_____ and this message is intended for you.

"Henry G_____, my name is Ms. Coburn. I'm a non-attorney representative with the Brachfeld Law Group.

"This is an attempt to collect the debt.

"Any information obtained will be for that purpose.

"Please return my call at (866) 834-3556. My ext is 6066.

When calling back I need you to please refer to reference 10107940."

I called back and was told the name of the organization is Brachfeld & Associates, with offices in Torrance, California.

No mention of the firm's ability to alter identities by the mere act of leaving a voicemail message.

They keep calling and leaving threats and it is for someone I do not even know.

Hey just so everyone know's. The links above are no longer in service. They ethier toke them off or the got banned. They are just bottom feeders.

Tell them to #$%&%$$ (something that I can not say but you get the hint)

They told my wife that they wanted to server her papers for a court apperance. We told them to server us but to date they have not. It has been about two months. I guess they gave up and found that we are not as easy as some one else. Plus my wife looked them up Better Bisness Bureu and they had a F rateing. The adderss give was here local to us. I want and looked up the adderss and it was a Postal Connection Office. Which means they had a po Box but with a real address.

Don't get fooled into a scam. Plus if they were legmit why the fake adress??????????

The funny part is we have no bad debt of any sort. Hell I have top markes on my credit report.

Eddie Dean with the Brachfield Law Group.  Could not give me a correct telephone number to call back -- studdered through the script.   Keeps leaving rude messages about a debt that is not owed.

Twice, at 11:51 and 11:52 AM
A song played? nobody says anything!

You must be a debt collector

debt collector

bs from a debt collector - trying to make it appear that these fraudulent collection attempts are valid when they are not.  

Meridian Management Solutions
aka/Erica Lynn Brachfeld & Associates, P.C.
dba/ California Meridian Management Solutions
aka/The Minority Legal Network


THE BRACHFELD & ASSOCIATES

SCAM CONTINUES…opens in new page



Brachfeld & Associates are licensed to practice law in the State of California.  NOT in the State of Texas! NONE of her organizations, collecting debts in Texas are licensed or bonded, a violation of Texas law.  Their collectors are calling Texas residents threatening legal actions by attorney Brachfeld. This is a CONSUMER SCAM!  If you are contacted by any of the organizations listed above, contact us for assistance and referral to attorneys who can deal with them. Do NOT believe what they tell you, they are lying.


SHUBINCollect America (CACH,CACV Franchisee)
20300 S. Vermont Ave.,
Suite 120
Torrance, CA  90502-1338
P.O. Box 11029
Carson, CA 90749
Phone: 888-459-0999
310-273-7867
Fax: 310-273-9867   800 W. Sam Houston Pkwy S.

#200

Houston, TX 77042

Phone: 866-834-6218

866-354-3556

866-834-3556

866-917-1298

713-579-7000

Web Address: www.brachfeldcollections.com
 Head Debt Collector:
Erica Lynn Brachfeld

aka Erica Lynn Shubin

CA Attorney at Law, Bar#180683

NOT a Lawyer in Texas
Picture Courtesy Google Images


Erica Lynn Brachfeld Shubin

Malibu/Torrance CA




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bud Says                         Consumer Comments Below

What do you call a bottom feeder that is collecting for a bottom feeder? A vulture? A parasite? I would call them future unemployed debt collectors as the market of debts available to collect continues to shrink. My first glimpse at this organization was a letter sent out that shows the name; ‘Meridian Management Solutions’ with an 888# and a PO Box in Carson, CA.

When I ran the name through several search engines nothing came up, no CA or NV corporations, no license, no bonds no nothing. When I called the 888# the recorded response was…”You have reached The Minority Legal Network…” HUH? …This is a debt collector! So why are they going to so much trouble to hide that fact?

In their letter they state: “…or call our Law Firm at 888-459.0999 and work out arrangements for payment” Unfortunately Meridian Management Solutions is NOT a law firm, it is a collection agency posing as “Minority Legal Network” which is REALLY the debt collection law office of Debt Collector Attorney Erica Lynn Brachfeld, CA attorney bar #180683.

Apparently Erica must not be that good at collecting debts or she would not be working for one of the worst bottom feeders in America, Resurgent Capital, aka LVNV Funding, Greenville, SC for a commission of 25% of what is collected. She is also misleading consumers in her letters which will delight consumer attorneys who choose to litigate her obvious shortcomings.

This clearly illustrates why no one should ever deal with a bottom feeders, bottom feeder. There is no guarantee that you will benefit in anyway by sending them money, especially with he terrible reputation of Resurgent/LVNV. We warn anyone who receives calls or notices from this desperate debt collection organization to PASS! The odd of them being around are not good, they already feeding off of someone else, what does that tell you?

Contact me if you need assistance with Debt Collector, Attorney, Erica Lynn Brachfeld and her cluster of names, we can offer you assistance.

CAUTION: I recommend you NEVER disclose your bank account or credit card information to a debt collector, as you risk them emptying your account, or maxing out your credit card. If you feel they are reporting on your credit bureau files in error or need assistance in dealing with them, email  the details w/your location.  Assistance and referral to a consumer legal specialist may be available.  

THE BRACHFELD & ASSOCIATES SCAM CONTINUES…



March 2009 – Bud Hibbs © Consumer Justice –Voice of the American Consumer



California debt collection attorney Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin continues to represent to consumers that she is a Texas attorney, when she is not. Erica is still sending out letters asking for money under the name of:



Law Offices of Brachfeld & Associates

800 West Sam Houston Parkway South

Suite #200

Houston, TX, 77042



The State Bar of Texas has no listing for an attorney named Erica Brachfeld:






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The Online Membership Directory provides basic information about Attorneys licensed to practice in Texas. Attorney profile information is provided as a public service by the State Bar of Texas as outlined in Section 81.115 of the Texas Government Code. The information contained herein is provided "as is" with no warranty of any kind, express or implied. Neither the State Bar of Texas, nor its Board of Directors, nor any employee thereof may be held responsible for the accuracy of the data. Much of the information has been provided by the attorney and is required to be reviewed and updated by the attorney annually. Texas grievance/disciplinary information will not appear on the profile until a final determination is reached. Access to this site is authorized for public use only. Any unauthorized use of this system is subject to both civil and criminal penalties. This does not constitute a certified lawyer referral service.







Or the business name they use



Business Name Law Office of Brachfeld & Associates was not found.

You may also call the Business Information Line at 1-800-252-1386.

Should you require assistance concerning the taxable entity information presented,
please contact tax.help@cpa.state.tx.us.




Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin has been lying to and misrepresenting debts to consumers for what appears to be several years. A closer look into her background may reveal where she learned how to lie, mislead and apparently, taking is money that she is not entitled.



              It seems that Erica’s father was an attorney until he got caught stealing money from a client. and was ordered by the Bar to take the professional responsibility exam -- and he took it, but he COULD NOT PASS, so they stripped him of his license until he passes.  I am not making this up; he could not pass the professional responsibility exam.  Now he runs his daughter's debt collection firm. Who better to teach collectors how to steal than a former thief.



California Bar Journal Discipline Summaries



Summaries from the California Bar Journal are based on discipline orders but are not the official records. Not all discipline actions have associated CBJ summaries. Copies of official attorney discipline records are available upon request.



September 15, 2002



MARTIN STEVEN BRACHFELD, 64,  #8154, of Westlake Village was suspended for three months, stayed, placed on one year of probation and was ordered to take the MPRE within one year. The order took effect Sept. 19, 2002.



Brachfeld's law firm obtained a judgment of $300,000 against a mortgage account holder on behalf of a bank. The bank agreed that if the account holder paid $1,000 a month, or if he paid $150,000, the bank would file a satisfaction of judgment.



Brachfeld collected the payments and gave the bank nearly $19,000 over a two-year period. However, without the bank's approval, he then agreed to settle the account for $32,000. Without informing the bank, he filed papers with the court to satisfy the judgment.



He stipulated that he did not keep his client informed of significant developments in its case.



In mitigation, Brachfeld has no prior record of discipline and he cooperated with the bar's investigation. Three months prior to the misconduct, he completed a year and a half of rehabilitation from a near fatal automobile accident, which left him in a coma for two weeks. He fractured his skull and broke his spine, pelvis and both legs. Brachfeld lived in a rehabilitation facility during his recovery.



A recent visitor to their office stated: “There is a large room crammed with cubicles -- about twenty all total.  At the end of the room is a white board on which a supervisor post the names and numbers (dollar totals) of the collectors who are performing best that day.  Therefore, the collectors are under pressure from each other -- and Erica and her Dad -- to really hammer the people they call.  It's utterly barbaric.”



Still with Collect America



              It appears that Erica and Marty Brachfeld still hold a Collect America franchise (Aka/CACH/CACV) but will file lawsuits for almost anyone willing to write them a check, such as Arrow Financial. They face many lawsuits for allowing their employees to pose as attorneys, District Attorney’s, Attorney’s General and other law enforcement. In viewing all the garbage that comes out of this debt collection dumpster it appears to be just a matter of time until both Erica and her father start dealing with criminal charges, rather than civil one’s. They appear to be a crime wave that will surely end in possible jail times for their blatant disregard of the law and consumer rights.



              Erica and her spouse live in Malibu where he is an architect. Having viewed his website I wondered if he was aware of the depth of illegal activities perpetrated by his wife and father-in-law. There is the potential that she too could lose her law license as well as face financial ruin from the mounting lawsuits filed against her organization. It is important that consumers report their illegal activities to the CA & TX State Bars as well as the Federal Trade Commission for possible actions. It is always in your best interest to tape Brachfeld collector calls (where legal) to aide in bring charges or lawsuits against those employees who break the law.



              Erica & Marty Brachfeld has little or no idea of the events and circumstances contained in the lawsuits that they file. They are a paper mill that produces bogus documents as fast as can be printed. It is a known fact that hiring an attorney and fighting them will cost a fraction of what they will get in a lawsuit. Do NOT allow them to obtain a default judgment, respond to their suits, challenge every single claim they make. Record their collector’s calls, especially those posing as lawyers. Texas residents should file ethics complaints with the State Bar of Texas. It appears they are practicing law here without a license.



http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section= ... &ContentID=3837



Scamming the American Consumer

              There is no other way to describe Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin and Martin S. Brachfeld (former disbarred and disgraced attorney) along with their bottom feeder, junk debt collection agencies; Brachfeld & Associates, Meridian Management and Minority Legal Management than a massive scam of the American Consumer. It is my opinion, based on the hundreds of emails I have received, court cases filed and negative information about these organizations that no one should be paying them anything. It may be in consumers’s best interest to make them prove every claim they make in court filings including the bogus affidavits filed with purchased debt claims. The lawyers they use usually have little or no knowledge of what they are actually filing and most may not want to get involved in protracted litigation. Everyone should be aware that Brachfeld is a junk debt collector/buyer with no knowledge of your accounts except what she reads off a computer screen after purchasing charged off debts. Desperate collectors base her entire operations on bogus filing, lies, and perjured documents and threats. No one should be paying on this fraud. Let us bring Erica and Marty Brachfeld to justice, hold them accountable for their actions. America is tired of being ripped-off by these con artists; Marty is proof that once a thief, always a thief. Erica is NOT a lawyer in Texas. C’mon America, stop paying, start suing and filing complaints with the state bars, the attorney general and FTC. Let’s get rid of this trash and put them in a cell where they belong.



If you need a referral to a consumer attorney, contact us: cap@budhibbs.com

Meridian Management Solutions
aka/Erica Lynn Brachfeld & Associates, P.C.
dba/ California Meridian Management Solutions
aka/The Minority Legal Network


THE BRACHFELD & ASSOCIATES

SCAM CONTINUES…opens in new page



Brachfeld & Associates are licensed to practice law in the State of California.  NOT in the State of Texas! NONE of her organizations, collecting debts in Texas are licensed or bonded, a violation of Texas law.  Their collectors are calling Texas residents threatening legal actions by attorney Brachfeld. This is a CONSUMER SCAM!  If you are contacted by any of the organizations listed above, contact us for assistance and referral to attorneys who can deal with them. Do NOT believe what they tell you, they are lying.


SHUBINCollect America (CACH,CACV Franchisee)
20300 S. Vermont Ave.,
Suite 120
Torrance, CA  90502-1338
P.O. Box 11029
Carson, CA 90749
Phone: 888-459-0999
310-273-7867
Fax: 310-273-9867   800 W. Sam Houston Pkwy S.

#200

Houston, TX 77042

Phone: 866-834-6218

866-354-3556

866-834-3556

866-917-1298

713-579-7000

Web Address: www.brachfeldcollections.com
Head Debt Collector:
Erica Lynn Brachfeld

aka Erica Lynn Shubin

CA Attorney at Law, Bar#180683

NOT a Lawyer in Texas
Picture Courtesy Google Images


Erica Lynn Brachfeld Shubin

Malibu/Torrance CA




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bud Says                         Consumer Comments Below

What do you call a bottom feeder that is collecting for a bottom feeder? A vulture? A parasite? I would call them future unemployed debt collectors as the market of debts available to collect continues to shrink. My first glimpse at this organization was a letter sent out that shows the name; ‘Meridian Management Solutions’ with an 888# and a PO Box in Carson, CA.

When I ran the name through several search engines nothing came up, no CA or NV corporations, no license, no bonds no nothing. When I called the 888# the recorded response was…”You have reached The Minority Legal Network…” HUH? …This is a debt collector! So why are they going to so much trouble to hide that fact?

In their letter they state: “…or call our Law Firm at 888-459.0999 and work out arrangements for payment” Unfortunately Meridian Management Solutions is NOT a law firm, it is a collection agency posing as “Minority Legal Network” which is REALLY the debt collection law office of Debt Collector Attorney Erica Lynn Brachfeld, CA attorney bar #180683.

Apparently Erica must not be that good at collecting debts or she would not be working for one of the worst bottom feeders in America, Resurgent Capital, aka LVNV Funding, Greenville, SC for a commission of 25% of what is collected. She is also misleading consumers in her letters which will delight consumer attorneys who choose to litigate her obvious shortcomings.

This clearly illustrates why no one should ever deal with a bottom feeders, bottom feeder. There is no guarantee that you will benefit in anyway by sending them money, especially with he terrible reputation of Resurgent/LVNV. We warn anyone who receives calls or notices from this desperate debt collection organization to PASS! The odd of them being around are not good, they already feeding off of someone else, what does that tell you?

Contact me if you need assistance with Debt Collector, Attorney, Erica Lynn Brachfeld and her cluster of names, we can offer you assistance.

CAUTION: I recommend you NEVER disclose your bank account or credit card information to a debt collector, as you risk them emptying your account, or maxing out your credit card. If you feel they are reporting on your credit bureau files in error or need assistance in dealing with them, email  the details w/your location.  Assistance and referral to a consumer legal specialist may be available.  

THE BRACHFELD & ASSOCIATES SCAM CONTINUES…



March 2009 – Bud Hibbs © Consumer Justice –Voice of the American Consumer



California debt collection attorney Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin continues to represent to consumers that she is a Texas attorney, when she is not. Erica is still sending out letters asking for money under the name of:



Law Offices of Brachfeld & Associates

800 West Sam Houston Parkway South

Suite #200

Houston, TX, 77042



The State Bar of Texas has no listing for an attorney named Erica Brachfeld:






Home About the State Bar Member Directory




Search Results

You may re-sort your search results by clicking on the column titles. |   Return to Search



Results For:  First Name: Erica Last Name: Brachfeld




Your search has returned no result.




Return to Search



The Online Membership Directory provides basic information about Attorneys licensed to practice in Texas. Attorney profile information is provided as a public service by the State Bar of Texas as outlined in Section 81.115 of the Texas Government Code. The information contained herein is provided "as is" with no warranty of any kind, express or implied. Neither the State Bar of Texas, nor its Board of Directors, nor any employee thereof may be held responsible for the accuracy of the data. Much of the information has been provided by the attorney and is required to be reviewed and updated by the attorney annually. Texas grievance/disciplinary information will not appear on the profile until a final determination is reached. Access to this site is authorized for public use only. Any unauthorized use of this system is subject to both civil and criminal penalties. This does not constitute a certified lawyer referral service.







Or the business name they use



Business Name Law Office of Brachfeld & Associates was not found.

You may also call the Business Information Line at 1-800-252-1386.

Should you require assistance concerning the taxable entity information presented,
please contact tax.help@cpa.state.tx.us.




Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin has been lying to and misrepresenting debts to consumers for what appears to be several years. A closer look into her background may reveal where she learned how to lie, mislead and apparently, taking is money that she is not entitled.



             It seems that Erica’s father was an attorney until he got caught stealing money from a client. and was ordered by the Bar to take the professional responsibility exam -- and he took it, but he COULD NOT PASS, so they stripped him of his license until he passes.  I am not making this up; he could not pass the professional responsibility exam.  Now he runs his daughter's debt collection firm. Who better to teach collectors how to steal than a former thief.



California Bar Journal Discipline Summaries



Summaries from the California Bar Journal are based on discipline orders but are not the official records. Not all discipline actions have associated CBJ summaries. Copies of official attorney discipline records are available upon request.



September 15, 2002



MARTIN STEVEN BRACHFELD, 64,  #8154, of Westlake Village was suspended for three months, stayed, placed on one year of probation and was ordered to take the MPRE within one year. The order took effect Sept. 19, 2002.



Brachfeld's law firm obtained a judgment of $300,000 against a mortgage account holder on behalf of a bank. The bank agreed that if the account holder paid $1,000 a month, or if he paid $150,000, the bank would file a satisfaction of judgment.



Brachfeld collected the payments and gave the bank nearly $19,000 over a two-year period. However, without the bank's approval, he then agreed to settle the account for $32,000. Without informing the bank, he filed papers with the court to satisfy the judgment.



He stipulated that he did not keep his client informed of significant developments in its case.



In mitigation, Brachfeld has no prior record of discipline and he cooperated with the bar's investigation. Three months prior to the misconduct, he completed a year and a half of rehabilitation from a near fatal automobile accident, which left him in a coma for two weeks. He fractured his skull and broke his spine, pelvis and both legs. Brachfeld lived in a rehabilitation facility during his recovery.



A recent visitor to their office stated: “There is a large room crammed with cubicles -- about twenty all total.  At the end of the room is a white board on which a supervisor post the names and numbers (dollar totals) of the collectors who are performing best that day.  Therefore, the collectors are under pressure from each other -- and Erica and her Dad -- to really hammer the people they call.  It's utterly barbaric.”



Still with Collect America



             It appears that Erica and Marty Brachfeld still hold a Collect America franchise (Aka/CACH/CACV) but will file lawsuits for almost anyone willing to write them a check, such as Arrow Financial. They face many lawsuits for allowing their employees to pose as attorneys, District Attorney’s, Attorney’s General and other law enforcement. In viewing all the garbage that comes out of this debt collection dumpster it appears to be just a matter of time until both Erica and her father start dealing with criminal charges, rather than civil one’s. They appear to be a crime wave that will surely end in possible jail times for their blatant disregard of the law and consumer rights.



             Erica and her spouse live in Malibu where he is an architect. Having viewed his website I wondered if he was aware of the depth of illegal activities perpetrated by his wife and father-in-law. There is the potential that she too could lose her law license as well as face financial ruin from the mounting lawsuits filed against her organization. It is important that consumers report their illegal activities to the CA & TX State Bars as well as the Federal Trade Commission for possible actions. It is always in your best interest to tape Brachfeld collector calls (where legal) to aide in bring charges or lawsuits against those employees who break the law.



             Erica & Marty Brachfeld has little or no idea of the events and circumstances contained in the lawsuits that they file. They are a paper mill that produces bogus documents as fast as can be printed. It is a known fact that hiring an attorney and fighting them will cost a fraction of what they will get in a lawsuit. Do NOT allow them to obtain a default judgment, respond to their suits, challenge every single claim they make. Record their collector’s calls, especially those posing as lawyers. Texas residents should file ethics complaints with the State Bar of Texas. It appears they are practicing law here without a license.



http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section= ... &ContentID=3837



Scamming the American Consumer

             There is no other way to describe Erica Lynn Brachfeld-Shubin and Martin S. Brachfeld (former disbarred and disgraced attorney) along with their bottom feeder, junk debt collection agencies; Brachfeld & Associates, Meridian Management and Minority Legal Management than a massive scam of the American Consumer. It is my opinion, based on the hundreds of emails I have received, court cases filed and negative information about these organizations that no one should be paying them anything. It may be in consumers’s best interest to make them prove every claim they make in court filings including the bogus affidavits filed with purchased debt claims. The lawyers they use usually have little or no knowledge of what they are actually filing and most may not want to get involved in protracted litigation. Everyone should be aware that Brachfeld is a junk debt collector/buyer with no knowledge of your accounts except what she reads off a computer screen after purchasing charged off debts. Desperate collectors base her entire operations on bogus filing, lies, and perjured documents and threats. No one should be paying on this fraud. Let us bring Erica and Marty Brachfeld to justice, hold them accountable for their actions. America is tired of being ripped-off by these con artists; Marty is proof that once a thief, always a thief. Erica is NOT a lawyer in Texas. C’mon America, stop paying, start suing and filing complaints with the state bars, the attorney general and FTC. Let’s get rid of this trash and put them in a cell where they belong.



If you need a referral to a consumer attorney, contact us: cap@budhibbs.com

I got a call from this scumbag who asked who asked for me by name but I didn't say whether it was me or not. He said they were a law firm who had been retained and asked if I received the summons which of course I hadn't, probably because there is no summons. He then threatened that the sheriff would be at my door. He said something about me owing money to someone but didn't say who. He got rough saying I couldn't weasel out of my debts (I don't owe anyone anything). I told him I didn't want to talk to him and hung up. I won't be answering that number again.

Caller ID: 1-713-579-7000
Caller: Meridian Management
Caller Type: Collection Agency

I screen ALL calls. Answering machines are your friens! A bit ago, a phone call came in, and Caller ID showed the number as 614-389-2600. Turns out this is Brachfeld. The call was ended without a message. Then just moments later, the phone rang again, and this time it was a call from 713-579-7000 "Meridian MGMT." Someone named Ashley Miles identified herself as being with the "Brachfeld Law Group." She claimed there was a legal matter. She asked that I call her back at 866-837-4406.

I suspect this is nothing all that unusual...except that there were just moments between the two phone calls, and they were from completely different area codes, yet were from the same basic law group. How curious!

have been receiving lots of calls from 713.579.7000 - I have taken my message machine off - cause I am tired of these scum dogs.  Was taken by Allegro Law - for a debt consolidation -and if these guys from Meridian do not have a licence in Colorado - I simply will not allow them to contact me

Calling for someone who does not live here, never has lived here. Was a tenant of mine at a house in CA

Got another call from these people.  They also use various other numbers to call. Didn't leave a message this time, so I will just assume they are some kind of solicitor.

Collection agency for Bank of America.

you need to call Kron&Moss , they will stop the calls and sue the heck out of them , they dont charge to do that either , look them up and ask for Ryan Lee or Nick Bontragor

They called me a few times have a smart A** attitude always something nasty to say. when I asked them if i could take a message the guy went off on me  I have talked with so called supervisors and they do the same thing over again. I have mailed and faxed the proper no call  letter. They just laugh when I tell them im going to sue them. then he starts talking about the weather. A weird bunch at best.

this company is probably working for one of the sister groups for lvnv funding. they are a zombie charge off buyer and try to collect the debt stating that they are work the company that they purchased the charge off. which is a falsehood. Also you should report them to your state attorney general, as well as keep a close eye on your credit rating the parent company has a history of filing false documents with them stating you have an open account with them.

I just recieved a call from 713-579-7000.  I never answer my phone unless I know who it is.  30 seconds before the call I recieved a call from an unknow number.  I think that call was from the same person useing a differant phone as a probe to get me to answer the phone.