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told I got the same calls 1st asking if I was home to receive the pappers being served that a sheriff was on its way, then saying I had 3hrs to call the # before they would come.  So I was freaked and called the number and paid them $1021 which I didnt really have but was scared to go to jail! I am a single mother and didnt know what else to do!  Then after this my mother called and said my grandpa who lives in TX and Im in MO recieved the same phone call saying he was getting served the papers for me.  This is an 83 yr old man who has no idea about any of my finances and I attended to keep it that way.  I felt completly violated!  My mother who is a bill collector went crazy on these people!  Knowing that the violated a ton of FDCP violations.  The lady continued to harass my mother and so we stopped payment on the account and will be going first thing monday morning to an attorneys office to file a suit against this so called company that is no where to be found on anything!  Im extremely upset and can't even believe what I went through this afternoon! :(

This call was made a someone not related to me at all. Please count me me for class action.  Please record the coversation each time they call so that you can sue.

Please record the conversation and save all mails you received including envelopes so you can go into suit.

Please also file complaints online at

1)  www.FTC.gov

1)  You state attorney general  (they actually reply to me and ask me to fill out a form for them to investigate)

Hi,

I called again and they said the company name is RANCON management instead of RINCON.  Adddress is correct which is:

1191 Magnolia Ave Ste D-381
Corona, CA 92879

I have received a phone call from Debra Jones of Ricon Management Services, located 1191 Magnolia Ave.Ste D-381 Corona, Ca 92879 Phone (877) 401-6202 Fax (951)272-1727. Ms. Jones also sent me a settlement offer letter that states she is representing Orchard Bank that which charged the account off September 07, 2004. I have made several payments to this company because they treated me with a law suit and also had a sherrif to contact me saying I should call this company before he has an opportunity to serve papers on me. I did contact the company and spoke to Debra Jones who said she was attempting to collect a debt and since I have not be serve I will not have to deal with court cost and etc if I work with her in order to resolve the debt. I made payments and I thnk I am getting suckered.

Who ever made the post for lisa brite turner needs to stop palying games and not put any other negative comments and information about online and any other site. This a not ethical and is wrong.

Rincon Managent Services  119 Magnolia ave ste d-381 corona ca 92879.
These ppl have called my family and when i finally spoke with a woman she said i was being sued and that i needed to pay 784.24. I have given them my cc info and they sent me a form to sign it. I looked online and saw this, I will can my card tom and not sign info.

I too was contacted by Rincon and Debra Jones after never been contacted by anyone. She said I needed to call them back within 3 hrs. or i would be served papers for court. When i called she asked if i'd been served yet. Ms. jones told me the amount they would be suing for or i could make arrangements to pay. I was told to call the next day and ASK for ext 231. When i did ask for that ext . The lady said it was 231 and her name was Debbie (something else). I said i had the wrong number and asked if was calling for Debra Jones? I'm Debra Jones she stated. I gave her all my CC info for payments, i then recieved an email later that night with the company name on it. (i had not been told who they were or what client they were working for till this point.)
I did some checking on this company to only turn up NOTHING but, scam reports and a temporary licence for 10/10-07/11 under RMS on a Corona California info page. The address is an UPs store.
I called and cancelled by CC and called Rincon back to discuss what i had found...i was dsiconnected first then told Debra was in a meeting the next. Asked about their legal dept that they don't have and a supervisor that they would not give me. Later, Ms.Jones called back we told her they were scammers and to go ahead and send the summons to appear in court. The next day she called back and left a very threating message on the machine saying they would be suing me for 3 times the amount plus all court cost ,and lawyer fees.
I did more checking into this debit?? The staues of limitations ran out 4 yrs ago !!!! It's just due to come off my credit report in a few months....Never give your info unless your sure and they do have to send you a letter and give you 30 days to respond it's up you to do that.

Hi Valerie
City Investment Services 119 Magnolia Ave Ste D-381
I did the same thing you did. I gave them my CC info as well. I just received the form to sign today. Something told me to look online as well. Come to find out they are frauds. I cancelled my card immediately. Its funny they have different company names.

Hi Lisa

I got that same call and the same letter but the Company Name was City Investment Services the address and numbers is exactly the same as what you stated.

This is so wrong on so many levels. I did report it.

keeps calling me and harassing me

I got a call from Rincon Management Services in Corona Ca for a different reason. They wanted me to come work for them! This JUST happened 2/3/2011 and 2/4/2011. All information on this company is 100% true!
THE TRUE PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR THESE SCAMMERS IS: 495 E RINCON ST SUITE 201, CORONA CA 92878. I have listed the phone number and name of the "Operations Manager" that hired those callers and wrote the script they use when they call. (could be a fake name though, the nameplate on dudes desk said "Jim" something I think...)

I recently responded to a craigslist post for a Collections job in Corona Ca. I sent my resume to the link in the post and within two hours I got a call from a guy named John Cook. He got my email and wanted me to come in for an interview the following day.  When I arrived at Rincon Management Services I opened the door and walked into a small room crammed with desks and people.  Connected to that room was another small office full of desks and then a larger room with even more desks manned with people. It was a standard call center, the cheap kind…
John Cook wasn’t even there! He was called on his cell phone by his little brother who worked there and told him to have me sit with a gal and listen in to her calls. I sat there for an hour as she navigated a data base of people owing credit debt. When she actually was able to reach the point of contact she informed them that she needed to confirm he/she would be available to accept legal documents from a process server. She went on to explain a civil action was being brought against him/her and a that a notice to appear in court would be delivered by process service that day! If she was able to confirm the point of contact and address was good she gave him/her “the phone number to the legal office handling the civil action against you and the case number associated with the civil action. She told the person they would have to contact that number for more information. The phone number that was given rang within the same room!!! Not a legal office at all!! The people who took those calls were called “closers” and they were the ones who demanded payment to settle the matter out of court.
After an hour of waiting for John Cook I left. He called me an hour later and offered me a job, wanting me to start that day even! I told him I would start Monday but that I wanted to meet with him prior to that to ask some questions (since he wasn’t at the interview). I went in the following day and my first question was in regards to my “Employment Status”. He told me everyone there was an “Independent Contractor/1099” and pay was commission only. They didn’t withhold any employment tax including half of Social Security Tax and they didn’t pay into Unemployment Insurance or Worker’s Comp. Insurance. Clearly the people working there were not “Independent Contractors” considering not one of the IRS’s rules regarding Independent Contractor Status was being met. My comment to John Cook was “Well that’s not exactly legal, is it?” He played dumb for a moment, telling me he was “confused”. I continued on, beginning to explain the basics of 1099 status as determined by the IRS (not him) and he basically through me out  of his office! “Let’s cut to the chase here, this just isn’t gonna work out! You can go now” and with that he stormed out of his office clearly agitated. He wouldn’t even look me in the face after that and ignored my efforts to thank him for his time and shake his hand good bye. I simply smiled and casually walked out the door…all eyes on me as I did.
Not only is this company scamming people out of money, their exploiting their employees to do it and participating in California’s “Underground Economy”. This place needs to be shut down for good! Oh an by the way, they are NOT overseas they are in Corona Ca. off the 15 frwy! I have listed the physical address of the call center for anyone who wants to confront these crooks!! Have fun…John Cooks phone number is 909-771-9752. He wrote the script that is used to scam people out of their money, he is listed as the Operations Manager…

It has been while more then 3 months and i have not heard a thing from this company, other then a NASTY voice message (that has been saved) the day after we told them they were all over the internet as scammers and i would not pay a dime and i owed nothing due to satue of limitations. Many more people have reported them since my experience with Rincon Mangement. Keep on posting. People like us have helped others!!

To all those that seek legal advice here are some articles that may educate concern parties that owe a debt to a creditor. Seek legal counsel instead of believing these reports that have no merit. My understanding is this, if you know you  have an outstanding balance to a creditor whether it may be a bank, secured loan, internet/cable/cell/phone bills, or department stores. The debt does not go away you sign a binding contract.

Recording Phone Calls and Conversations

If you plan to record telephone calls or in-person conversations (including by recording video that captures sound), you should be aware that there are federal and state wiretapping laws that may limit your ability to do so. These laws not only expose you to the risk of criminal prosecution, but also potentially give an injured party a civil claim for money damages against you. According to California Penal code section 632. A violation of Penal Code § 632 can lead to a fine of up to $2,500 and/or imprisonment for up to a year. In addition, the violator may be subject to civil liability in the amount of $3,000 or three times the amount of any actual damages sustained as a result

Creditor's rights n. the field of law dealing with the legal means and procedures to collect debts and judgments. Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill.  

A party to which a debt is owed that has proved the debt in a legal proceeding and that is entitled to use judicial process to collect the debt; the owner of an unsatisfied court decision.

A party that wins a monetary award in a lawsuit is known as a judgment creditor until the award is paid, or satisfied. The losing party, which must pay the award, is known as a Judgment Debtor. A judgment creditor is legally entitled to enforce the debt with the assistance of the court.

State laws provide remedies to a judgment creditor in collecting the amount of the judgment. These measures bring the debtor's property into the custody of the court in order to satisfy the debtor's obligation: they involve the seizure of property and money. The process of enforcing the judgment debt in this way is called execution. The process commences with a hearing called a supplementary proceeding. The judgment debtor is summoned to appear before the court for a hearing to determine the nature and value of the debtor's property. If the property is subject to execution, the court orders the debtor to relinquish it.

Another process for recovery is Garnishment, which targets the judgment debtor's salary or income. Through garnishment a portion of the judgment debtor's income is regularly deducted and paid to the judgment creditor. The creditor is known as a garnishor, and the debtor as a garnishee.

Further readings: West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc.

To all those that seek legal advice here are some articles that may educate concern parties that owe a debt to a creditor. Seek legal counsel instead of believing these reports that have no merit. My understanding is this, if you know you  have an outstanding balance to a creditor whether it may be a bank, secured loan, internet/cable/cell/phone bills, or department stores. The debt does not go away you sign a binding contract.

Recording Phone Calls and Conversations

If you plan to record telephone calls or in-person conversations (including by recording video that captures sound), you should be aware that there are federal and state wiretapping laws that may limit your ability to do so. These laws not only expose you to the risk of criminal prosecution, but also potentially give an injured party a civil claim for money damages against you. According to California Penal code section 632. A violation of Penal Code § 632 can lead to a fine of up to $2,500 and/or imprisonment for up to a year. In addition, the violator may be subject to civil liability in the amount of $3,000 or three times the amount of any actual damages sustained as a result

Creditor's rights n. the field of law dealing with the legal means and procedures to collect debts and judgments. Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill.  

A party to which a debt is owed that has proved the debt in a legal proceeding and that is entitled to use judicial process to collect the debt; the owner of an unsatisfied court decision.

A party that wins a monetary award in a lawsuit is known as a judgment creditor until the award is paid, or satisfied. The losing party, which must pay the award, is known as a Judgment Debtor. A judgment creditor is legally entitled to enforce the debt with the assistance of the court.

State laws provide remedies to a judgment creditor in collecting the amount of the judgment. These measures bring the debtor's property into the custody of the court in order to satisfy the debtor's obligation: they involve the seizure of property and money. The process of enforcing the judgment debt in this way is called execution. The process commences with a hearing called a supplementary proceeding. The judgment debtor is summoned to appear before the court for a hearing to determine the nature and value of the debtor's property. If the property is subject to execution, the court orders the debtor to relinquish it.

Another process for recovery is Garnishment, which targets the judgment debtor's salary or income. Through garnishment a portion of the judgment debtor's income is regularly deducted and paid to the judgment creditor. The creditor is known as a garnishor, and the debtor as a garnishee.

Further readings: West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc

An original creditor can charge off an account and still retain the debt and they can still sue you.

They might continue collection efforts in-house. They might farm it out to a collection agency. Only if they sell it do they relinquish their right to continue collection activities, including suing you for the debt.

A charge-off is a bookkeeping practice that allows a company to write the debt off as a loss. In no way does it affect the creditors ability to continue to try to collect or to sue. The only thing preventing that is if and when they sell the debt. Nothing olbigates them to sell the debt. If they do, then the collection agency can pick up where the original creditor left off and pursue collection activities and sue you, if they so have a mind.

Even if the debt is beyond the statute of limitations (SOL) for your state, they can sue you except in a very few states (like Mississippi) where the debt is extinguished once it is beyond the SOL.

If they do sue you and the debt is beyond SOL, they can still get a judgement on you despite the SOL.

A420CHICK has a blog under her real name is Kirsten Everett-I am 34, a mother of 4, and a medical marijuana patient as well as an advocate for the reform of marijuana laws in this country.: she writes about making special cookies for her veteran boyfriend > She's written another article about the Strip Clubs-An Underground Economy. The statement below is on her profile; "A PLACE FOR ALL THINGS 420! CURRENT EVENTS RELATING TO MARIJUANA AND THE CHANGING LAWS RELATED TO MEDICAL MARIJUANA. LEARN HOW TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT IT REALLY MEANS TO BE A MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENT AND ADVOCATE." very interesting, maybe she was on Ecstasy or another hallucinating drug when she wrote these articles. Isn't John Cook an American professional golfer, who has played on the PGA Tour and currently plays on the Champions Tour.

Maybe A420CHICK/Kristen from Riverside, California is an employee of Ed Magedson of RipOffReport.com is a WANTED criminal that extorts individuals that have posted on RipOffReport.com and legitimate companies for money and he may be operating one of the biggest criminal enterprises ever created on the Internet and it is being perpetrated by a group of criminals with a track record of fraudulent activity. For more ground breaking information on how he operates his fraudulent scheme, please visit The Bureau of Ethical Internet Commerce, www.ezripofflawsuit.com and www.bad-business-rip-off.com

It's very interesting to find people who scream fraud and play the victims. Found a420chick'/Kirsten Everett (a420chick) on Myspace.   a420chick's Blurbs
About me:

There’s more to me then meets the eye. I’m into the mysteries life is full of... I’m a spiritual person... I have a dark side… …weird [***] fascinates me…and I mean weird, sick shit… I crave knowledge (for it IS power) I like to talk…a lot. I’m a hard worker and enjoy the fruits of my labor. I was blessed with an amazing amount of personnel strength I’m never afraid to lend that strength to others. I will fight for what I believe in I’m not afraid to speak up and give my opinion; most people like that about me. I don’t put up with BULL SHIT…and I’m not afraid to do what ever it takes to avoid drama…but if you push it on me, your not gonna like what you get… I’ve got a hell of a temper when pushed too far… I can be incredibly serious…yet a bit wild when encouraged. I like sexy…sexy is good. I like to be silly and I like it when people are silly with me… I love to laugh. I like to be the center of attention I’m soft hearted I love to feed people! I love to cook (and I’m good at it…) I like to do things I’m good at… Not so into the things I suck at… I like to draw… I like to write… I like to read I’m into kids…I’ve got a bunch, four to be exact. I’m into crafts… I love to get my hands dirty I love animals…there cute. I love music I love to dance… I love beautiful women…that’s right you herd me…I love women…deal with it! I love tattoos and bald heads, with crazy ideas of racial purity and all that nonsense … (Stay hard homeboys...most of us are good pen pals) I love the bar seen… I like to shoot pool and drink I love life in general and all its infinite possibilities and twists and turns…I hope to do this for a while.  THIS PERSON SURE DOES HAVE A LOT OF CREDITABILITY, DOESN'T SHE? A MOTHER OF FOUR THAT LIKE THE KINKY PARTY SCENE AND LOVES TO SMOKE POT. PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM TOO SINCE SHE LOVES  TO GET OVER ON PEOPLE!

we  got a call saying the same thing. that my husband was being served, and had 3 hours to contact them. we looked online cuz it sounded funny. thankgod we did. we sent no money and told them that we contacted a lawyer and would be back intouch with them. the only thing different was the name of the company. they used union management sevice.  thankgod for the internet!!!