travel coordinator too good to be true?
- B-Edwards replies to Alexis| 9 repliesYou are welcome - How are you on the security angle? They don't have your ss#. They have a phone and temp address. No banking/credit card info. I doubt you have to lose sleep over someone pounding at your door, but a scammer with a modest amount of your personal and professional info can be a nuisance.
One thing in your favor is that you are one of many people they are scamming at any one time. You are being sent pre-formatted e-mails, for example. This is not especially personal, other than they see you as an American with money. This is a business for them.
If you do a web search on 419 scams, you will should be able to get an overall picture and better idea of the details you want to consider. You will see some posts from people who make it their mission to screw with and screw up the scammers. You will also get some ideas of the best way to disengage yourself from these guys, and not be memorable.
You owe them nothing. All that has happened is they sent you a bad/phony check and they want to scare you with some bs "contract". In general, a contract to do something illegal is not a contract at all. From reading comments, just dropping contact is fine. As a day or so goes by, the scammer will assume you know the check is bad, and that you are not likely to send any money. They will try and threaten you a few times and see if they can get anything out of you. If you don't respond, they will move on to the next person.
Keep us posted, OK? - TormentingTelemarketers replies to B-Edwards| 1 replyI f you have the emails, have someone you know that's computer/tech/security savvy look at the emails, particularly the "Headers" (you don't normally see most of them in your email client, you have to do a "View Source"). If you don't have that, let us know what email client you are using, and we can work from there to help you out through private email. Don't post the Headers here in this open forum.
If the internet routing appears that they are overseas, you're likely safe and they will move on once they realize you've caught on as B-Edwards says. They will try to scare you, but stand your ground. If they are more local (US based), you might want to get the police notified (unlikely to be needed).
http://www.419eater.com/ is also a resource where you might get more experienced help. - B-Edwards replies to TormentingTelemarketersTT - I think you meant to post that to Alexis. I am sure she will read it. //
- MzFish replies to B-Edwards| 1 replyWhat if she tells them, and does so, turn check over to the Feds?
- B-Edwards replies to MzFishWe probably need someone who knows more about working the 419 scams. I have read that some scammers can be a real pain in the asp. If she says to the scammer: "You Cad! My bank told me that check you sent was a phony as a three dollar bill. I am turning over to the Postal Inspectors!" They may keep calling or sending emails just to jerks. She is not in a ideal position to twist their tails since they do have some valid info about her.
Dropping of their radar might be the best route. But that is only my opinion, filtered trough my experience, values and beliefs. Everybody gets different mileage out to that car! If Alexis wants to take up scamming scammers for fun and profit, she won't have to wait long to hear from one. Next time, she can be ready! - michele replies to Alexis| 2 replieshis number is 818-821-2025. I have been getting all the same emails. the first check was not good.
- CelticDragon replies to micheleShould pop that number into the Phone Number Search box on this or any other page
- MJG replies to micheleStop all contact with this "person". Then read the already posted comments for suggestions.
- Daniel replies to Alexis| 1 replyAlexis, there is no doubt at all it is a scam. I too wondered how because I insisted that the check would have to clear the account it was wrtitten on.
Well, the banker identified the check as fraudulent. Contacted the company who held the account. It happened to be Wells Fargo, same as mine, so she pulled it up on her screen. The account and routing numbers matched , as did the signature. So this scam is well thought out and covered. But when the banker spoke with the accounts payable , they said no such check was issued and amounts are never written in. It was a good forgery.
Now, what would happen if is within a few weeks the accounting would discover this , and I would be liable for the money, and could myself be arrested for fraud.
There ya go. - Daniel replies to B-Edwards| 4 repliesB-EDWARDS
See my reply to Alexis. As for the website, no email , phone or contact information. Google search diverted to other organizations under the heading INTERNATIONAL MEETINGS, which could fool someone in a hurry.
They thought of a lot. - EricAre there still people who think they will get something for nothing? You would think this is common knowledge these days.
SCAM SCAM SCAM. They do the same scam when you try to sell your car...and sometimes they come get the car as well and you are out the money and the Car..... Educate yourselves please. - B-Edwards replies to Daniel| 3 repliesThanks for posting the details of what you learned. You may have save Alexis or someone else form being sucked into this type of scam. It is interesting that the scammer went to that much trouble on the check, to the point of trying for a convincing forgery. You had an educational experience out of all this. You're not closer to the job you were hoping for, but on the other hand you kept your money. And a lot of people don't make out that well. I average a little over a scam a day in my spam e-mail, all of them variations on the 419. So these scams are a paying business for someone.
- Alexis replies to B-Edwards| 2 repliesYah i sure have learned a LOT from this forum. This forum basically saved my life lol, as well as taught me good life lessons on who to trust/not to trust, as well as forms of forgery and scams.
Daniel: now, I still have this fake check in my mailbox. Should I just VOID and tear the check apart, or keep it as evidence in the case I need to report to someone? - Alexis replies to DanielIf you see a possibility of yourself being liable for fraud, what are you going to do to protect yourself?
- Elspeth replies to Alexis| 1 replyIf you received anything in the mail - including that check - take it to your local Postal Inspector - they will investigate this as mail fraud!
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