844-458-4811

This number has called before claiming to be a debt collection service.  They say that I owe a hospital for a surgery that I had about 5 years ago. However, I didn't have surgery at all and if I had needed one, I would have gone to Kaiser--because that is who my insurance was through at the time.  They keep calling and calling.  I've received no notifications in the mail from them or the hospital they are supposedly representing.

I got a call from this number too they left a voicemail telling me to call them, since I don't know
who it is and I don't aowe any debts I did not call them back!

MIDWEST RECOVERY SYSTEMS, LLC.

Business Entity Information
Status:  Revoked            File Date:  9/17/2012
Type:      Foreign Limited-Liability Company    Entity Number:      E0483392012-6
Qualifying State:      MO    List of Officers Due:      9/30/2013
Managed By:          Expiration Date:
NV Business ID:      NV20121566910    Business License Exp:      9/30/2013
Registered Agent Information
Name:      REGISTERED AGENT SOLUTIONS, INC.    Address 1:      4625 WEST NEVSO DR SUITE 2
Address 2:          City:      LAS VEGAS
State:      NV    Zip Code:      89103
Phone:          Fax:
Mailing Address 1:          Mailing Address 2:
Mailing City:          Mailing State:      NV
Mailing Zip Code:
Agent Type:      Commercial Registered Agent - Corporation
Jurisdiction:      CALIFORNIA    Status:      Active
Managing Member - JOSEPH H SMITH
Address 1:      12 WESTBURY DR STE D    Address 2:
City:      SAINT CHARLES    State:      MO
Zip Code:      63301    Country:
Status:      Active    Email:
Managing Member - ARMEN L TUMANYAN
Address 1:      12 WESTBURY DR STE D    Address 2:
City:      SAINT CHARLES    State:      MO
Zip Code:      63301    Country:
Status:      Active    Email:
Managing Member - BRANDON M TUMBER
Address 1:      12 WESTBURY DR STE D    Address 2:
City:      SAINT CHARLES    State:      MO
Zip Code:      63301    Country:
Status:      Active    Email:

Scam! 100%...... I owe no one! Hang up and BLOCK these S.O.B.'s... SCAM, SCAM,SCAM, they just want to steal your info...........

They said I owed a doctor. I gave them my banking information. I got no receipt. There is no way to contact them.

Now I have to go get new banking info and block them. Wow!

left a message stating to return the call; stated debt collector...we have no accounts in collections...not going to call them back...sounds like a scam....

I just received a call from this number stating I owe money. I do not have any debt seeing I am a young college student living at home. This is 100% a scam!!!

I get pre recorded calls from this mid west recovery service at least once a day, under various bogus phone numbers. They say they are a debt recovery system and I need to call them at the 844-458-4811...of course I don't call as I don't owe anything...if it is so darn important, why do I get a recording, and not a personal call? This is nothing but a fishing expedition and I am sick of these annoying crooks.

The solution to your problem is simple.  Keep in mind that they have already violated the law if they have not sent out that dunning letter after leaving the first message.

You need to send them a certified, return receipt debt validation (by law they have to go back to the original creditor to prove you owe the debt) letter (think of it as the best $6.59 you ever invested).  Also send it first class mail in case no one will sign for it.  Make a notation of that fact at the bottom of the letter.  You also need to report them to the proper agencies to which I have provided links to.  Then you need to go out and get a consumer lawyer to sue them on a contingency basis (no money out of your pocket) and let them pay you for the harassment.  If everyone did these three things, these crooks would be bankrupt and we would all be the richer for it.  Use these web sites to find an attorney in your state that will probably take the case on a contingency basis (no money out of your pocket up front):  http://www.consumeradvocates.org/
http://www.consumeradvocates.org/find-an-atto ... tates_value=All

Everything else you need to know follows including at least two agencies where you should report their criminal activities.

MIDWEST RECOVERY SYSTEMS
Number threads associated with these crooks:  https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-314-720-2929
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-253-3440
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-314-720-2919#p1212216363392807072
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-844-458-4811
Web site claims they are a DC and a call center and also claims they are in Missouri:  http://www.mrs-direct.com/contact.html
BBB gives them an accredited A+ rating with 490 complaints and 7 negative reviews (up from 82 and 1, the really strange part is they have a lot more complaints and bad reviews, yet the BBB raised their rating from a B to an A+, wondering how much that cost?):  http://www.bbb.org/stlouis/business-reviews/c ... s-mo-310487393/
This site seems to have a different address for them:  http://www.zoominfo.com/c/Midwest-Recovery-Systems-LLC/355286451
LinkedIn page for two of the head criminals:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenny-conway-16483362
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-m-tumber-85a86334
Missouri Dept. of State info:
Name(s)     Midwest Recovery Systems, LLC.     Address

Type     Limited Liability Company     Charter No.     LC1228788
Domesticity     Domestic
Registered Agent     Tumber, Brandon
12 Westbury Dr
St. Charles, MO 63301     Status     Active
        Date Formed     5/18/2012

Duration     Perpetual
Managed by

Reg. Office    12 Westbury Dr
St. Charles, MO 63301

Lots of complaints:
http://badfinance.org/review/1571073/midwest-recovery-systems-debt-collection
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Rebuilding-Yo ... ms/td-p/4532142
Lots of complaints on their Facebook page and also that they are looking to hire more felons:  https://www.facebook.com/MidwestRecoverySystems/

Looks like they were sued:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/4888 ... tems,_LLC_et_al
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/missouri/moedce/4:2013cv02242/130504
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/1005 ... ry_Systems,_LLC

It is incumbent upon them under the law to prove that the debt exists and that you owe it, and that they have the legal right to collect it.  You are not obligated under the law to prove that you don’t owe or that it is paid.

Federal law (FDCPA) requires them to send you a letter (US MAIL ONLY) postmarked within 5 days of their first contact that contains their name, physical address, the creditor’s name, and the amount of the alleged debt.  It also must contains “mini-Miranda” telling you that it is an attempt to collect a debt and that all information will be used for those purposes.  The one other important thing that this letter must also have in it is that you have a right to dispute the debt within 30 days of receipt of the letter and if you do so, all collection activity must be stopped until the debt is verified.

Read up on your rights here and also make a complaint at this government site:  http://www.consumerfinance.gov/

Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General's office.
List of State AG’s offices:   https://800notes.com/faq/attorney-general

I never answer from numbers I don't know. Got an automated voicemail saying I owe a debt. I don't.

Don't answer calls you don't know!

My wife received a call from Midwest Recovery through a voice message and returned the call. It was allegedly a debt I owed. I talked to them and asked for a stamped, self addressed envelope with the information about the debt. They said they only send info. They only wanted my info which I told them I do not give that to someone I do not know. I did get heated but they called me abusive. I do not give out my personal info over the phone. Period !!!

The solution has been posted in this thread.  All you need to do is take the time to read.

I received a call from a number with a Florida area code - I didn't answer. Later, I received a call from a Rhode Island are code - this one I answered. Both times were the same audio message telling me to call this number. I, of course, just searched the number before even entertaining the idea of calling them, which led me here to confirm my suspicions.

The're still at it.

Not very smart of you .. never ever give them your personal or bank info ... let them send you a bill and don't give them your address either.