Fake payday loan collection scams - Please list new numbers here [2]

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    Michelle
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    My mom and in-laws both recieved a call from someone stating that there was a court date set for me on the 28th of this month and that I needed to contact them as soon as possible. They gave a reference number and telephone number to call back. The number they gave was 855-502-7963. I tried to call it back and it says the number is no longer in service. I assume this is a scam, and really want these calls to stop. What can I do to make the calls stop?
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    Felipe
    This scam has been going on for awhile..You can't go to jail because you owe a loan.........No debtors prison in the US so don't be a fool and send these scums money..If you owe a payday loan, be sure you pay back the right company and not these fraudsters......and I might add that the PAYDAY loan companies are the ones selling your information to these scumbags......I suggest DO NOT GET A payday loan, they are predatory and you will never get ahead because they charge to much interest.

    I had these bums calling me for over 2 years, because my deceased brother used my name as a reference and I keep telling them he is deceased and I don't owe them anything and that references don't pay back loans, they just talk dirty and hang up then call back a few months later...

    STAY AWAY FROM ONLINE PAYDAY LOANS...IF NOT YOU WILL BE OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS THAT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE, COST YOU TO LOOSE SLEEP AND MUCH AGGRAVATION. THESE SCUM WILL HARASS YOU............WARNING,,,,,,,,,PAYDAY LOANS ARE BAD.
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    Consumer replies to April
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    "The ones outsourcing our information to the scum are in the US."

    How true.  I posted this in the previous PDL scam forum but it bears repeating:

    http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/41475/1

    And you just know that Encore is not alone.  Motherless freaks...

    There is a 'trend' - not sure how new it is but it's just come to my attention -  for 'call centers' to buy 'portfolios.'  It's a new angle to business called 'financial management.'  What's scary is that anyone can get a job in these 'call centers.'  You don't even need to have a high school diploma.  How much does anyone want to wager that their average call center candidates don't even know what the words 'US Bankruptcy Code" mean?  Or, what the acronym FDCPA stands for?  The upper crust puts together a corpus of scripts for their 'representatives' to read off to those on the opposite end of these calls.  So, if you get your FDCPA or US Bankruptcy Code rights trampled all over, too bad.
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    April replies to Michelle
    I wouldnt suggest you even bother with these [***]. They will not stop no matter what you say or do. They are outside of the US and can not be stopped by our laws.
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    April replies to Consumer
    Speaking these scum buckets are using our information to harass and scam us you would think they would quit outsourcing outside the US to foreign scum. but i guess GREED is the mother of all screw ups. eventually it will bite them in the [***] and I will be laughing my ass off when it does.
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    Jimini
    I received  call from Derrick Johnson..@ 888-803-9812 ..saying the sheriff was on the way to serve me.
    when I said I had no idea what he was talking about,  he said since there was no response to the letter he had sent me,  in regards to the money I owed on a credit card, they were going to take me to court.
    He asked me if my address was correct..he had it..but when I said the zip was wrong, he said..well we had that wrong so since this is our mistake we can settle right now for 1000 dollars. All I have to do was go to Wallmart and set up a prepaid line of credit..call him back and let him know the funds were available..then it would all be taken care of. Every time I tried to ask ??  he started with why he was saving me money letting me settle this out of court and how he was helping me. Next day he called again..saying he was going ahead with serving me to appear in court since he had not heard from me. I told him I had spoken to an attorney and they had let me know that I have no open cases against me in my county and if he would be nice enough to give me his name, company name, address and telephone numbers. my attorney would contact him and advise me how to proceed. He then said..in a mean tone.."Well I guess we will just see you in court then." *click*
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    April replies to Neil Johnson
    LMAO!! You are so stupid. Learn to spell and speak English dumbass. We all know you are full of [***].
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    2Creative Not 2 Get Even
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    Just as an FYI, everyone, I have attempted something that you might find interesting:

    I have been reading through these posts almost daily for over a year now.  This whole scam irritated me in a unique way for some reason, and I have been hell-bent to try anything and everything I can to help stop anyone else being a victim or give them any more funding for whatever ilicit purposes they are involved in.

    I have chosen numbers from random posts on this forum from other people.  Keep in mind that none of these numbers had ever contacted me!  I called back and started asking questions, acted a little bit worried and when they asked my name, I gave them a fake one (said I was Chuck U. Farley, which the humor was completely lost on them).  I would then hang up.  LITERALLY WITHIN 30 MINUTES I started receiving calls for Chuck U. Farley about a warrant for my arrest, a huge bill for a payday loan that wasn't paid, check fraud charges, etc.  Chuck U. Farley doesn't even exist, the name was an invention of my imagination, but they sucked onto it like leaches thinking it was yet another person they could scam out of money.  As soon as they had a phone number & name, a bad debt of outrageous porportions "magically appeared".

    On that note, I agree that we seem to be getting nowhere with assistance from our own government.  I have filed complaints with every branch I can think of (& some new ones I found online).  There has been no response, action or resolution.  I have resolved to just keep trying to help as many as I can from sending their hard earned money, and for myself start seeing the humorous side of it all.  Here is a previous post I listed.  It may give you some good ideas on how to deal with them, but at the very least it should add a little humor to your day:

    "Here's some more ideas to add in there:

    They have started in with a new number now (612-235-6132), so the game begins again!  This time when the guy identified himself as an "officer", I told him he has called a crime scene and I started interrogating him.  He hung up after some stuttering and stammering.  Anyone who did not see my last post, here it is again with some more creative ideas on how to deal with these idiots:

    "OK, first off, everyone CALM DOWN and don’t freak out about these guys.  No matter what they say or what they threaten, they CAN’T do anything to you.  I know every one of us has tried filing reports with law enforcement, FTC, FBI, ic3, etc.  It doesn’t seem to work, because these guys aren’t even in the USA.  So take a deep breath, relax and don’t let them ruffle your feathers.

    Now, I started getting these calls about a year ago.  I have personally used all of the tactics below, and they do stop calling me for about 6 months…so the way I figure it, a little time out of my day to give them back a taste of their own medicine is worth it for 6 months of peace and quiet.  Keep in mind, as well, every minute you spend screwing with them on the phone is a minute they are NOT able to scam someone else.  (And the only way they will ever stop is if nobody pays them any money ever again!)  And now for the fun part—how to screw with them back.  I will start with the easiest and move up the line with the more time consuming:

    If you have no time to mess with them:
    a.    Just don’t pick up the line.  Let it go to voicemail and delete the message.
    b.    Pick up the line and immediately hang up.  Keep doing it until they stop.
    c.    Pick up the line and use an air horn or police whistle blown straight into the mouthpiece of the phone.  (I personally like the canned airhorn the best.)
    d.    If they call while you are driving, turn the radio up as loud as possible and answer the line on speakerphone.  Don’t say anything, just let them listen to the blasting music.  Heavy metal music works best, but I personally have a CD with Star Spangled Banner on it, so I play that as loud as I can.  Just leave the line open with the music blasting until they hang up.

    If you have a little more time to mess with them:
    a.    Ask if they are related to the deceased (insert your name here as the “deceased”) or just a family friend, because “the viewing of the body if for family only, but the memorial service is open to everyone.”  Ask if they would like directions to the funeral.
    b.    Simply tell them that you have read all about their scam on the internet & seen it on the news on TV, so you aren’t paying anything.  Don’t listen to any response, just hang up on them after saying this.
    c.    Use this one only if you are willing to be as crude as they are:  Using the name they gave you (i.e., “Officer Mike Taylor” was the last one I got), say, “Is the this THE Officer Mike Taylor I read about on the internet?  Is it true what the posts online say, that you have such a small d**k that even camels won’t have sex with you?”  Then hang up on them.
    d.    (For this one, I must first apologize to PETA and all vegans, but it highly offends the scammers because they consider cows to be divine beings.)  Tell them you don’t have time to speak with them, because you work at a slaughter house and you have over 100 cattle you need to “kill off” before the end off the day.  Then hang up on them.
    e.    Are you good with theatrics?  Then try this one…it was actually highly effective for me:  Put on your deepest, scariest, growliest voice and just whisper into the phone over and over, “I command the demons to come for you, I command the demons to come for you, I command the demons to come for you…”.  Just keep whispering it over and over until they hang up.  I think this one worked well because they are quite superstitious.
    f.    If you know a foreign language, answer the phone in it and just keep talking in unintelligible phrases.  The more obscure the language, the better.  Don’t know a foreign language?  Pig Latin seems to work just as effectively.
    g.    Ask if they are calling from the convenience store, and can they give you last night’s winning lottery numbers, because you are sure you have won.  For any response they give to it, just keep yelling over and over, “I won! I won!”
    h.    When you answer the phone, ask them where your pizza is and tell them because they didn’t get it to you in the “30 minutes”, you’re not paying for it.  Hang up.
    i.    Tell them you are at work right now, but to call you back on your “home” phone, and give them this number: 202-835-0778.  (This is the scam and fraud reporting division number at the FBI.)  Hang up.

    If you are REALLY p***ed off, and have plenty of time to screw with them:

    a.    Go on to Craig’s List and post an ad in the wanted section or services section  saying you are looking for a payday loan company because you need a loan.  Ask they call you right away.  List the scammer’s name and phone number as the contact information.  (This sends the scum-sucking bottom feeders off to call the other scum sucking bottom feeders…LOL)
    b.    Go online and look for every free daily horoscope, free insurance quote, free mortgage lending, etc., and click on the “have an agent contact me” link.  Type in the scammer’s name and phone number.  Viola!  Now they will get flooded with telemarketers as well.
    c.    If you would like to blow off steam, and have no problem with swearing, just keep calling them over and over pretending you have Tourette’s Syndrome by just screaming obscenities in the phone until they hang up.  This works pretty good in the car, because no one else can hear you and it is a good tension reliever.
    d.    Log onto these payday loan sites and enter all of the scammers’ information on it.  This way they might even wind up on their own list!
    e.    (Do NOT attempt this one unless you have state of the art spyware & virus protection, and even then, you still are taking a risk):  Go into your spam folder on your computer.  Find every email you can about “you won millions of dollars” or “the Nigerian lottery” or something to that effect.  Send it back with all of the scammers’ contact information.
    f.    Research for the phone numbers to both local and national TV news stations “breaking news desk”.  Again, tell the scammer on the phone to call you at your “work number” and give the number to the news station’s phone number.  (Hopefully, if the news stations get enough of these calls, they will start airing more stories about it, reaching more people and reduce the number of victims that fall for this.)

    Again, before sending money to ANYONE, stop. Think.  Do you have any paperwork showing you owe money?  If not, ask for paperwork.  If they refuse to send it, they are scammers.  A real collection agency will always: 1. provide paperwork; 2. never yell or cuss at you; 3. never require you to pay first before receiving paperwork; 4. never identify themselves as an officer of law enforcement; 5. never threaten you with jail, arrest or physical harm.
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    Consumer
    I've got another number but this was a hangup so I don't know if it's part of the PDL scam or not:

    809-275-1300.  Caller ID identified this number as "Dom Republic" and that's it.
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    Karla replies to 2Creative Not 2 Get Even
    Those are awesome.  My faves were the canned air horn and entering their number in the payday loan sites.  I also especially loved the FBI number and the one about the news station.  Clever.
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    BR
    I was referred to this post  I got a call from 678-951-8696 stating that I commited fraud and that they would refer this to my local authorities Only trouble with this is I have no idea what the hell she was talking about, she never said who she was calling for but did leave her name Angel Cruz . Don't know if that's her name or not she fumbled over sayng her last name. The only thing I can say is BRING IT ON ANGEL!
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    Elizabeth
    Some Indian guy called my boyfriend and asked for his card number. My boyfriend gave it to them, i told him he was stupid. They called back a week later asking for the numbers on the card saying they had it already and they just wanted to verify it was my bf. My bf starting questioning the fake asking what the numbers were and he confessed he didnt have them but he still needed them to send him money. My boyfriend started getting smart with him and the indian was like sir, we need the numbers to make sure this is you. Well my boyfriend then was like "Well guess what, i cancelled my card" the indian got furious and called my boyfriend a [***] ass [***] and hung up. Hahahaha my boyfriend called back, and that number didnt exist.
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    lolo
    another number they are using 718-841-6478
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    Not falling for the scam
    Just got called from these bozos. Tried to tell us that we had signed up for a payday loan and had not repaid it. That was bull. When we called the person back we were transferred to another individual, a Phil Weinberg, who accused us of breach of contract and demanded a cash payment. Refused to give me an address or legitimate name for his company. The fax # he gave us is no good. Said they would only take cash payments wired to them. Who do they think they are kidding? Got very belligerent with me and said he would sue me...anyone who talks to a Phil Weinberg at 909-256-8208 be warned this is a scam....When I tried calling back later to get the address for them again, I got the same run around. People be very wary of these scammers!
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    not falling for the scam
    numbers we have been called from:
    1-855-365-4046
    1-866-247-9270
    909-256-8208
    fake fax # 951-220-8304

    they called me two more times since posting this tonight!

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