Rizzo, Roth & Associates, LLC--questionable tactics?

Anyone have a physical address for this "debt collector"?

They refere to themselves as a "non-legal litigation firm", which strikes me as a very peculiar contradiction if I ever heard one.

They apparently pose as cops and threaten to make arrests.  They will not provide a mailing address, but only a fax number.  They will not identify themselves with particularity.

The appear to use a variety of numbers, including 716-833-0904 for a fax and 585-379-1040.

If anyone has dealt with them and has a physical address, I would like to know.

Thanks.

I can't find their site.

There's a few others that have similar names, but not these guys.

Tell them the next time they call to either provide a legitimate, physical mailing address in which to dispute the alleged debt or you will seek legal counsel who will do it for you.

NO debt validation, NO debt. It's that simple.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency, is warning consumers to be on the alert for scam artists posing as debt collectors. It may be hard to tell the difference between a legitimate debt collector and a fake one. Sometimes a fake collector may even have some of your personal information, like a bank account number. A caller may be a fake debt collector if he:•is seeking payment on a debt for a loan you do not recognize;
•refuses to give you a mailing address or phone number;
•asks you for personal financial or sensitive information; or
•exerts high pressure to try to scare you into paying, such as threatening to have you arrested or to report you to a law enforcement agency.
If you think that a caller may be a fake debt collector:
•Ask the caller for his name, company, street address, and telephone number. Tell the caller that you refuse to discuss any debt until you get a written "validation notice." The notice must include the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor you owe, and your rights under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
If a caller refuses to give you all of this information, do not pay! Paying a fake debt collector will not always make them go away. They may make up another debt to try to get more money from you.•Stop speaking with the caller. If you have the caller's address, send a letter demanding that the caller stop contacting you, and keep a copy for your files. By law, real debt collectors must stop calling you if you ask them to in writing.
•Do not give the caller personal financial or other sensitive information. Never give out or confirm personal financial or other sensitive information like your bank account, credit card, or Social Security number unless you know whom you're dealing with. Scam artists, like fake debt collectors, can use your information to commit identity theft – charging your existing credit cards, opening new credit card, checking, or savings accounts, writing fraudulent checks, or taking out loans in your name.
•Contact your creditor. If the debt is legitimate – but you think the collector may not be – contact your creditor about the calls. Share the information you have about the suspicious calls and find out who, if anyone, the creditor has authorized to collect the debt.
•Report the call. Contact the FTC and your state Attorney General's office with information about suspicious callers. Many states have their own debt collection laws in addition to the federal FDCPA. Your Attorney General's office can help you determine your rights under your state's law.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0258-fake-debt-collectors

if anyone received a call in which you were told that legal action was pending, or a process server was coming, or that you would have any criminal charges filed, or any threat of legal action, please report this to the NYS attorney generals office by calling 716-853-8400,  save all messages and recorded calls where possible

Haven't checked to see if name and number link, but I think this is the actual name:
RIZZO RAUTH AND ASSOCIATES LLC
191 SHETLAND DR
WILLIAMSVILLE, NEW YORK, 14221

Here's the link to their NY registration:
http://appext20.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSE ... _results_page=3

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2013cv03047/282629/

http://www.superpages.com/bp/Buffalo-NY/Rizzo-Rauth-And-Associate-L2447352635.htm

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/other-statutory-actions/illinois-northern-district-court/493374/darryln-duncan-v-rizzo-rauth-associates-and-gerald-v-canzoneri/summary/

http://businessprofiles.com/details/rizzo-rauth-and-associates-llc/NY-4237962


(I didn't finish searching.  Only posted what looked to be associated with the company from page 1 of search.)

Rizzo - Rauth & Associates LLC
4244 Ridge Lea Drive Suite 22
Amherst, NY 14226
Phone: (866) 803-6961   Fax: (716) 833-0904

This is up to date information.  I'm dealing with these scum bags now.  Still trying to find out if they are legit. Good luck!

There no longer in business last time I call the office for my debt..

Are you serious? So whatever debt or monies they collected was just a scam?

That address comes up as http://www.bbb.org/upstate-new-york/Business- ... st-ny-235967536
Alternate Business Names
Arbitration Services of WNY Inc.

I know there address i just got fired from them

u don't know nothing squirrel, that's why we fired u!

this is a third party collection agency they are real debts that people owe. Hired by these companies to try and recover their lose before they place judgements on you..

Very well, then ... RR&A should have no trouble sending real dunning letters for those real debts and providing real validation on request and making a real effort to not call and write real people who find their badgering, bluffing, and bullying real inconvenient and a real pain. I wonder what their real plan is to "recover their lose" from real FDCPA lawsuits from really abused consumers?

Of course, you do realize however, that "judgements" can't simply be "placed" on anyone without going through the correct legal process.  Which means the burden of proof lies with the caller to show that the alleged debtor actually owes money to them.  Which includes MAILING proof of debt/proof they can collect said debt to alleged debtors.

That doesn't explain why these operations call outdated numbers.