I Hit the Data Goldmine Yesterday and Today

Bunch of insecure people trying to get social approval from each other!

Some of the stuff they spew here are not particularly intelligent or relevant either.

Misfits be gone.

It's a brand new day! Celebrate ~

I see your multiple personalities are showing again.  You really should get help for that.  Since Obamacare is out, you might even get your medications for free.

As with any Internet location these days, there is going to be the riffraff, even the perps themselves, responding. There is going to be (whether intentional or not) deflections defining mail-order catalogs as sent by "spammers". Even regulars that interject politics into the discussion.

The numbers area should remain anonymous, as that is how people are initially posting contact. I'm ready to start linking to a forum topic if I can determine which group/perp it is, so that people can easily find out more data. It might be necessary to fix the registered log-in function to post in this forum area (which is broken for me), but still make it easy enough to create an account.

For the regular pattern of calls (even those that only have "dead-air") I am comfortable posting under the number it came in on. However, if I determine more information, and know I (and others) are going to be called on a different number tomorrow, I have a desire to escalate it into more than just being under that number. It would be great to link a series of numbers to just one operation, however the target marketing changes, either in one big operation that sells those "services", or competitors that use similar equipment to spoof the same numbers.

I would really like to see the main carriers have a system to filter out non-operational numbers (it wouldn't catch the first few calls, but could be used to seed the filter). Sadly, many of the methods cause consumers to lose more privacy in how it would be constructed. Thank You for any additional suggestions on how this process can be improved.

Now that I have read your last post, I understand your reasoning.  It is best to post under the individual threads as that is the first place to look, but would also be convenient for it to be linked to other similar threads by the same group of cretins.
At this point, your best bet would be to register an account (if you are comfortable doing that), at which point you could see your past posts as well as replies to your posts.
It has been discussed about linking numbers, but with spoofing and the fact that any number could be a debt collector today, a card service tomorrow, and a government grant the day after, it is a bit difficult.
Also there tends to be a large amount of redundancy in posting the same numbers over and over again as is evidenced in several forum threads here that are generally nothing but list the number here.  Mostly because they are so large at this point, it would take someone hours to look through all of them to see if the number they wanted to post was already listed.

"...At this point, your best bet would be to register an account (if you are comfortable doing that)..."

I'm "comfortable" doing that, but the registration process was broken when I attempted it from my Chromebook. It looks like quotes and spaces are not allowed for usernames, so I'm forced to change that single-use pseudonym to this one. Note I'm not a "Richard"/"Dick"/"Frank" anyway, nor do these usernames connotate any sexual preference (+Seinfeld Quote+).

I'll see if Thomas Schwartz calls me back tomorrow, maybe he can threaten (the made-up) me with a lawsuit again, and tell me the DNCR does allow them to call a wholly fake persona that has their "debt" as a "public record"...

Debt collectors are not covered under the DNCR, but are covered under the FDCPA and the FCRA.  Also the TCPA to a lesser extent and under certain conditions.
In case you need to the links:  http://www.consumerfinance.gov/
http://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/rules/rulemaki ... ctices-act-text
http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/policy/TCPA-Rules.pdf
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/default/fil ... porting-act.pdf

Welcome to 800 Frank! :)

The calls I get, either realistically or for the persona I have created, are not for debt collection. They are the generic "Rachel" or "Kelly" offers to reduce credit card interest rates. As you are probably aware, someone talking to me like they know my account details ("social engineering" tricks to gain my trust), especially keying off false details I provide, has no legitimate reason to be talking to me.

I've not "opted-in" to any of these calls (the "Hello Seniors" saying that a "friend or family member" has contacted them to reserve a device for me are another group of pathological liars), to the contrary my phone is provided by my employer, and I do not use that number for any unrelated contact. The nature of my employment requires me to answer every call, and they can come in from anywhere, at any time. My number has been listed on the DNCR for years, and I have been the only one to hold the number.

This particular instance had someone with verifiable details threaten to "sue" me for "defamation" merely by me calling him a "scammer" while he had my credit card company conferenced on the call. His identification of the spoofed number as "one of our marketing lines" to say he would call me back, and blustering like he had a legitimate address to come after me sealed the deal. I don't owe these people a thing, nor is there any transaction (or lack thereof) for them to call me on the number they do.

Is there any other misunderstanding that I have done nothing myself to receive calls these calls (like many other people are complaining about on this forum) in violation of the FCC Do Not Call Registry?...

To elaborate further, the portion of my post talking about "debt" was concerning what Thomas Schwartz attempted to pull out of his butt. When he replied that someone's "debt" was a matter of "public record" (trying to justify that his company had called me after supposedly seeing financial troubles), I responded that I had wholly invented the persona he was referring to. How is he seeing "debt" for a person that doesn't exist?

That REALLY confused Thomas too, I distinctly heard him open his mouth twice as he stumbled for words, probably realizing his first contact with me was over a spoofed number (not impossible to transfer between related companies, but it shows he has his hand in it somewhere) that is another FCC violation: Fraudulent Caller ID information. I've called back to leave him a voice-mail, and providing the opportunity for him to talk to me now that he knows what position he is in. Thomas has been there at least a few years, and I now know of two other co-workers he had that left that workplace over those "creative differences".

I think the whole operation is now ripe for the picking, if we still have some government agencies willing to investigate...

How did you ever get deep enough in the call to get this information?  I got a call from the 252-685-9865 today and the recorded message said to request a free booklet about debt or something like that.  When I got a live person and asked them about getting the booklet, they hung up on me.  I hate these people.  I get at least 200 calls like this every year.  I got 5 just today.   I give them a fake card number and the 800 number for the national suicide hotline.  But I have tried to get some information from them to try to identify them such as a website or 800 number. I had one person tell me they could only give me their website name after I have given them my credit card number and am qualified.  Another told me it was creditcardservices.org or .com which of course there is no real site. Today I have one tell me their site was bbb.org.  I told them that was the better business bureau and they told me they were listed under that site.

National suicide hotline!!!! that's a great idea.... Now every time they call me I will give out that as my number like hey can you call me right back on my cell number? the number is .... (national suicide hotline).

"How did you ever get deep enough in the call to get this information?"

Somehow, some way, I think I got escalated through a tier level that thought they already had validated my credit card. Only at that point (where they want to record you as agreeing to charges against your card) do they start talking about company names. I would recommend against supplying other phone numbers, even to your local police department. That isn't going to be the way to get these jerks shut down.

That's really intelligent.  Get them to start calling a suicide help line, thus tying up the phone line.  That way, someone who really needs help can't get through, and decides to go through with their suicide plans.  Do you even have any coherent thought processes?

BigA, I agree with you,  a suicide hotline should only be utilized in a crisis situation. Having said that, I am not familiar with a single  hotline that does not have a prerecorded introduction that explains the purpose of the hotline.     Once the scam caller hears that message they will most likely terminate the call but that is an assumption that if wrong has unnecessary  and costly risk.

(BigA,  my brother,  is there something we can do to help you channel your negatively  toward the offending scam callers and not fellow posters?)

Well done Richard/Frank. I have tried a few times to get info but seems like you have broke thru some of the layers of these scams. Keep us updated here.