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OMG. This has happen to me as well. told me I owed 400.00 dollars. He wanted me to also put it on a green back card. He said his name was clayton peterson.he has called my jobs over 100 times. I has to call the FTC and attorney general. He also said some nasty remarks to my supervisor. I told him..Take me to court if you want to..if you dont have proof now..You want have proof then..I said this because. i asked him to send my and invoice or bill and he couldnt.

Same [***] here. Very rude to me, called me so much on my cell phone, my husband's cell phone, at work, & even my parents home. Telling them to pass on messages to me, my dad was getting pissed, & manager was really not in the mood for nonsense today, thank god. So with all the threats & yelling, he did it in return. Apparently I was going to jail with the police at my house to arrest me, I told him that I would be more than happy for them to do that for me. He got really upset with me when I said that, telling me I don't say that, I yelled back something really rude in Italian, & he kinda grunted & hung up. Probably understood what I said, too. Knowing Indians, they know like every language in the world. Reported them to the police tonight, hope to see them in court for harassment.

We're getting calls also.  The man is of Indian dissent.  Identifies himself as Kurtis Wilson phone 518 712 9390. He was very demanding, very rude, and telling us that he was going to pursue legal action.  I told him to go head !

Kept calling me on my job. we could not incoming calls. Keep calling and saying to pay the money. said name was casper waston, and willian carter. very rude statred curssing when told them that i was sending them any money and stop calling my job. They called back to back for over an hour.

This guy is calling our hospital back to back. We cannot get him to stop. He says he is John Harrison or Casper Watson. He keeps saying my co worker owes him $300 on a cash advance loan that she has never applied for. We are in TN. How can we make him stop?

GETTING UNWANTED CALLS AT WORK

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They are calling me Several times a day When i called them they were legitimate and they are from the cash advance and they have given me the receipt which i have asked for with no due certificate and know  I am assure that i am out from this legal stuff....

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I was working at my business they were rude to my manager but as i was calling them back they give be the full information and they were having my personal information and i am making payments to then if you get the no due certificate from them then only pay to them...And know i m assure that i am in good hand Please make sure you ask fr the " NO DUE CERTIFICATE AFTER THE PAYMENT " ....

Shill alert!  WTF are you talking about?  Your post makes no sense.  How do you know the poster is/works with anyone named "sheila" anyway?  Go back to the boiler room, and when it gets slow, sign up for an ESL class!

And just what is "NO DUE CERTIFICATE"??
You shills come up with the wildest things.

Wow, the shills here have English skills that suck even worse than the typical Indian scammer. No wonder they can't find work in a legitimate call center and have to babble their inane, incomprehensible nonsense here.

Must have used the Bing online translator to translate this incomprehensible mess from Hindi to English.

It is happening with me as well.  I work at a hospital and he has even wished for our patients to die.  Someone needs to arrest these people.

I gather from very brief poking around that Indian lenders can issue a "No Due Certificate" indicating that a debt has been satisfied. In other more grammatically correct words, there is "no due" amount. The scammers coming to this thread to pump their pom-poms for an extortion shop evidently think every nation's financial system uses the same nomenclature and procedures. We've been around this block before ....

Clearance certificates?
https://800notes.com/forum/ta-4c1052d399ee4ec/clearance-certificates

Phantom Debt Collectors From India Harass Americans, Demand Money

By BRIAN ROSS (@brianross) , CINDY GALLI and MATTHEW MOSK (@mattmosk)
June 7, 2012

Hundreds of thousands of cash-strapped Americans have been targeted by abusive debt collectors operating out of overseas call centers suspected of links to organized crime in India, law enforcement officials told ABC News.

The calls are part of a massive scam, one that appears to target struggling Americans -- especially those who have gone online to apply for payday loans. Armed with personal information from those pilfered applications, the threatening callers, who claim to be debt collectors poised to initiate legal action, have managed to pry loose millions of dollars from their victims -- even when the victims never owed money in the first place.

"This is what we call a phantom debt collection scam," said Jon Leibowitz, the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. "It's a very pernicious and innovative new fraud."

Working through call centers in India, the commission estimates that the criminals have dialed at least 2.5 million calls, persuading already cash-strapped victims to send them more than $5 million. Some have reported receiving dozens of calls per hour. They are victims like Cindy Gervais, of New Orleans, who went online for a quick loan when her husband's car was hit by a driver who didn't have insurance.

Even though she paid the loan off, the so-called "phantom" debt collectors with Indian accents began calling to say she still owed money.

He more or less told me that if I didn't pay, they were going to have someone on my doorstep to arrest me," she told ABC News. "And that they were going to contact my place of business, and tell them what kind of person I am."

At first, she said she resisted. Then the calls became more frequent, and started to ring on her cell phone, and at the grocery distribution company where she had worked for 27 years.

"I was more or less was in panic mode because he told me there would be someone before noon at my place of business to arrest me and take me to jail," she said tearfully. "So I agreed to pay him."

After receiving scores of complaints, investigators with the FTC said they began tracking the calls, and following the payments. They alleged the payments led them to a California company run by an Indian-American named Kirit Patel, and that such scams would not be possible without American front men.

"I would say that all roads of this scam, or many of the roads of this scam, lead back to Mr. Patel," said the FTC's Leibowitz.

ABC News tracked Patel for weeks, from the suburbs of San Francisco to Austin, Texas.

Patel refused to talk. But his lawyer, Mark Ellis, said he believes it is far too early to pass judgment on his client. Ellis, a Sacramento-based attorney, told ABC News that Patel was hired for a nominal fee to set up an American shell company, and had no idea what the call centers in India were doing.

"I can tell you, he was as snookered by the people in India as anybody," Ellis said. "He's a 69-year-old man who is nearing his retirement who thought all he had to do was set up some corporations and everything was on the up and up. He's completely dismayed that he has become the lightning rod of this entire problem."

A close friend of Patel's also defended him in a brief interview at his home, saying Patel was not trying to defraud anyone -- he was just an unwitting, bit player in a larger scheme.

"If Mr. Patel was just a cog in the wheel he seems to have been a pretty big cog," Leibowitz said. "It is clear that Patel was integrally involved with this scam."

Leibowitz points to thousands of pages of financial and phone records gathered by the FTC and filed as part of a civil case brought against him in the U.S. District Court in Sacramento last month. When FTC lawyers sought to freeze his assets and prevent his business from continuing to operate, Patel responded by invoking his rights against self-incrimination. His lawyer told ABC News he has had to be careful in how he responds to the allegations in civil court "because there is a potential criminal action," but that Patel maintains the allegations against him are false.

Federal investigators said the phantom debt collection operation that allegedly benefitted from Patel's assistance was one of several that all trace back to the same small town in Western India called Ahmedabad. Callers use technology to make it appear that the calls originate inside the U.S. Victims provided ABC News with recordings of dozens of the calls, and many of the thickly accented callers appear to be reading off a script.

"Subpoenas have been readied, and Monday morning you're going to be picked up from your home," one caller says on a victim's voicemail. "And you have children. Don't worry about your children. We have a childcare department to take care of the children."

"You will be behind bars for six months," said another caller. "And once you go behind bars, you will lose your job. Once you are behind the bars, you won't get a single drop of water."

William Peerce Howard, a Tampa attorney who represents victims of harassment from debt collectors, said it takes an especially twisted criminal to use threats and coercion to pry money from someone who is already struggling financially

"These guys really are the most visible villains in America today," he said. "They make a living scaring people."

Mark Merola, of Florida, said he just panicked when the caller told him he might be arrested at the deli where he works in a Florida retirement community.

"I was nervous. I didn't want to embarrass myself, my family," he said. He used his debit card to pay the collector $576.

Afterwards, he says he realized "how stupid I was."

"It just happened so fast," he said. "I got scared."

Leibowitz said he hopes with more attention, future potential targets of the scam will recognize red flags before they turn over any money.

If callers say they are from the police, consumers should know that law enforcement officers do not collect debt for private parties. If the caller is speaking with a thick Indian accent, but calls themselves by a names such as Officer Mike Johnson, that should be a tip off. And if they're calling 40 times in two hours, that's another red flag. "Legitimate debt collectors, legitimate pay day lenders don't do those sorts of things," he said.

Merola said he would like to see anyone involved in the scam prosecuted aggressively.

"There's no place in society for these people," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/phantom-debt-co ... 16512428&page=2

LAST FRIDAY THEY TIED OF ALL OF OUR COMPANY'S TELEPHONE LINES.  I HAVE A LETTER THAT I GOT FROM THE NATIONAL CREDIT ADJUSTERS WHICH INFORMS ME THAT I AM LINKED AS A VICTIM OF THIS SCAM AND THAT THIS IS A SCAM AGENCY.  THEY HAVE THREATENED ALMOST EVERYONE AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.  WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN TO US?

Have you reported these calls to the government? They cannot do anything if you don't.

This is a criminal extortion scam operating out of India. They are making the calls utilizing VOIP and the names of legitimate firms to make it appear the calls are originating from within the US. There is NO "company" or "debt" and you will NOT be arrested. They are harvesting and/or buying consumers' personal identifying information from unscrupulous websites like the one you may have filled out an application with, and you need to do whatever you can to protect yourself. This includes: Notifying the FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/, placing fraud alerts with all three credit bureaus, notifying your bank and employer and letting these criminals know you are aware they are attempting to extort money for a non-existent debt and have alerted the authorities.

ABC News released an investigative report on this scam in June. The FTC has indicted one of its ringleaders for criminal fraud:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/phantom-debt-co ... 16512428&page=1

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/08/bgm.shtm

no offense, but i think u were scammed.  THE CHECK ADVANCE COMPANY U REALLY OWE IS UNPAID.

I kept getting calls from a company stating they were offering me a cash advance first... funny thing is they had the wrong info all the way around. I am not stupid so I falsified information. I decided I didn't want to pllay anymore and decided to hang up on them and state I wasn't interested. A couple of days went by and I guess they thought I forgot or something.. they called today 10-31-12 and asked for me (well partially they only had half of my REAL last name--dummies) and I knew it was a scam.... I told them I wasn't interested and hung up. I then got another phone call and they told me I was under investigation and a lawsuit was filed against me. So I started asking questions and the man could not answer me so he hung up. Then he called right back and acted like I hung up on him. The original call was from Florida and this one New York. I filed a complaint with the BBB online. I got about 12 phone calls today, The man was rude and just plain disrespectful to me and my mom--he told my mom to "shut up [***]!" We both threatened him with lawsuits if they called again... I am very disappointed that our world has come to this... very disturbing. Just can't trust anyone anymore.... smh...

yesterday.i got a call from a girl with a accent.telling me I need to call this number and talk to the gentle men with the same accent.when I did he said that I applied for a three hundred dollar loan.i had to psy five hundred or I go to jail and see a judge and end up paying three thousand.he said what will it be.then he read the opitions again.he said he could tell I didnt have any money.so he said since I dont have any money.i need to go to them and sleep with them and I wouldnt have to pay anything.