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that grant company with 60 complaints is nfa.
they tell people that since moving only 6 months ago their BBB info is not yet updated, so when you check the new address, no complaints on file. Just check their old address, all you have to do in nevada is move, they were in jason ostrowski's (nfa listed president) transmission shop in suite a, moved up to second floor to suite 200 6 months ago.

You obviously have a lot of time on your hands. So let me make something clear since I know you will come back and read this. I work with NFA and we NEVER ask for SSN, we OFFER to pick up via Fed-Ex and if our clients choose to take another route, they are ABSOLUTELY more then welcome to use US Mail. Also we send our Welcome Packages via US MAIL! So before bashing on a company, get your facts straight. We don't require account or routing numbers, even offer our clients to cut their account numbers off of their bank over view page so they need not worry about anyone having their personal information. We are legitimate, we do the promised work and do not need any one's identity because we have our own. Why don't we just try for a moment to be mature proffesional adults here.

ITS AMAZING THE INFORMATION YOU CAN FIND ON THE INTERNET WHEN YOU ARE WILLING TO ACTUALLY LOOK FOR IT  

OF COURSE ITS A SCAM !!!  

FROM CONSUMERAFFAIRS.COM
Government Grant Scams

The "free money" scam has been around almost as long as the human species.

It has more variations than a bulldog has wrinkles but you can count on one thing: the government (any government) does not simply give money away to individuals.
Anyone who tells you differently has larceny in his heart. If you give him your bank account number, he will soon have your funds in his pocket.

It does no good to list all of the names used by these bunko artists because a.) they change all the time and b.) every single free-money government-grant offer is a scam. Period.

IT IS A SCAM  AND IF YOU BOTHER TO RESEARCH GRANT SCAMS ON THE INTERNET YOU WILL FIND THIS OUT

REGARDING BBB AFFILIATIONS
IF they pay BBB dues – BBB DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPORT COMPLAINTS AGAINST DUES PAYING MEMBERS.  
They don’t want to lose those fees – so they side with the fraudulent business over the consumer.  They do not post complaints against dues paying members.
Read all about why the BBB cannot be trusted. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/001/ripoff0001343.htm

Also check out the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WEBSITE – Consumer Protection about GRANT SCAMS

BBB ARE LIARS!  

BBB DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPORT COMPLAINTS AGAINST DUES PAYING MEMBERS.  
They don’t want to lose those fees – so they side with the fraudulent business over the consumer.  

Read all about why the BBB cannot be trusted. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/001/ripoff0001343.htm

Also check out the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WEBSITE – Consumer Protection about GRANT SCAMS
ALSO CONSUMERAFFAIRS.COM HAS A LOT OF INFO ON GRANT SCAMS

I'm sorry - but you have not realized you have been ripped off yet

NEVER EVER PAY FOR FREE GRANTS OR INFORMATION ON GRANTS!

From FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WEBSITE ABOUT GRANT SCAMS

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt134.shtm

Grant scammers generally follow a script: they congratulate you on your eligibility, then ask for your checking account information so they can “deposit your grant directly into your account,” or cover a one-time “processing fee.” The caller may even reassure you that you can get a refund if you’re not satisfied. In fact, you’ll never see the grant they promise; they will disappear with your money.

The FTC says following a few basic rules can keep consumers from losing money to these “government grant” scams:

Don’t give out your bank account information to anyone you don’t know. Scammers pressure people to divulge their bank account information so that they can steal the money in the account. Always keep your bank account information confidential. Don’t share it unless you are familiar with the company and know why the information is necessary.

Don’t pay any money for a “free” government grant. If you have to pay money to claim a “free” government grant, it isn’t really free. A real government agency won’t ask you to pay a processing fee for a grant that you have already been awarded — or to pay for a list of grant-making institutions. The names of agencies and foundations that award grants are available for free at any public library or on the Internet. The only official access point for all federal grant-making agencies is www.grants.gov.

Look-alikes aren’t the real thing. Just because the caller says he’s from the “Federal Grants Administration” doesn’t mean that he is. There is no such government agency. Take a moment to check the blue pages in your telephone directory to bear out your hunch — or not.

Phone numbers can deceive. Some con artists use Internet technology to disguise their area code in caller ID systems. Although it may look like they’re calling from Washington, DC, they could be calling from anywhere in the world.

Take control of the calls you receive. If you want to reduce the number of telemarketing calls you receive, place your telephone number on the National Do Not Call Registry. To register online, visit www.donotcall.gov. To register by phone, call 1-888-382-1222 (TTY: 1-866-290-4236) from the phone number you wish to register.

months after sending money, no business plan, no grant proposal, after they get your money, no response. NOTHING BUT EXCUSES !
SOME OF THEIR LIES and VEILED DISCLAIMERS THAT YOU DON"T FIND OUT ABOUT UNTIL AFTER FEDEX'ED CHECK HAS CLEARED;

NFA LIES about Business Grants

Thousands of small businesses and for-profit entities have contacted National Financial Advisors this year to inquire about the grant funding opportunities for capital purchases and business start-up that they had heard about on TV. Despite the promises of “free money” and “unlimited grants for debt relief and business development” from advertisers trying to sell costly books and training, it does not take long for those who contact our offices to uncover the truth behind the hype and gimmicks:

At National Financial Advisors, we believe that the “free money” hype does nothing more than create false hope and waste our clients’ time and resources. In order to better serve you and prevent potential disappointment, National Financial Advisors has researched and assessed the grant funding trends of businesses and related for-profit entities over the past several years. This process has enabled our consultants to sift through the hype and uncover the true funding opportunities in which businesses are most likely to acquire.

National Financial Advisors is proud to offer an affordable service system that is designed to support businesses and for-profit entities to identify and acquire grant funding. Determining one’s grant eligibility and potential likelihood of acquiring a grant is an important first step of this service system, which is provided free of charge by National Financial Advisors. A simple phone call to our corporate office – or an e-mail inquiry will help us understand the business services you are/will be providing and will help us determine if there are grants available for this type of business; what other low interest loan/grant resources are available if professional grant development services are not a worthwhile investment or option; and what the next steps should be to either pursue funding through the National Financial Advisors service system or independently. Our consultants are trustworthy and will honestly and reliably tell you the truth regarding your potential ability and likelihood of acquiring grant funding as opposed to trying to sell you worthless books and useless services.

If a potential business client is deemed grant eligible, National Financial Advisors is then able to offer an array of affordable services to support the client in identifying the right grant opportunities to go for as well as in developing and submitting proposals to obtain grant funding with little time and investment from the client.

These business development and capacity building services include, but are not limited to:

Grant Research Services
After thoroughly discussing your financial and business growth needs, a consultant will research upcoming funding opportunities and will develop a detailed report of grant, loan, procurement, and venture capital funding competitions for which you are eligible to apply and likely to be awarded. Depending on the type of funding your organization needs, the ‘Grant Research Opportunity’ (GRO) report will typically include anywhere from 20 funding competitions to 50 plus. We only put the most appropriate funding opportunities in the report which will reduce time and future research efforts as you prepare your annual grant development schedule with our staff. This also places you in our grant alert system so that when new grants come out, we will alert you and offer you consulting in making the decision whether to go for the grant or not -- free of charge. The report development process takes us up to four weeks to complete, at which time we will e-mail you your GRO report and then engage in a conference call to thoroughly review the report, prioritize the funding opportunities, and establish your grant schedule for the year.

Development of a 501(c)(3) Non-Profit Incorporation Application (Exclusive Package Only)
Many organizations will find that it is much easier to pursue and acquire grant funding if they register as a non-profit corporation (as appropriate). The process of acquiring a non-profit corporation certificate, however, is extremely time consuming and technical. Our consultants can help by developing the entire 501(c)(3) application package for state and federal IRS submission, which includes bylaws and articles of incorporation at an affordable flat fee rate.

Business Plan Development
A detailed business plan and marketing analysis report will be developed for your organization which will enhance your ability to qualify for SBA and other low interest loans.

Development of a Grant/Procurement/Funding Proposal
National Financial Advisors offers professional grant proposal writing services that include the collaborative planning of the grant program design, development of the full narrative and budget, and submission of the proposal.

After discussing your needs with one of our consultants, an affordable price will be quoted to you so that you can discuss this investment with your board and staff

when will nfa hit A+ with BBB
if these folks ever come forward and verify will be the day that never comes - tomorrow

NFA "Testimonials"
"National Financial Advisors  has provided us with advice which has been key to our rapid growth. They have up to date and detailed knowledge of their field and provide a friendly efficient service. There are so many puffed up, useless offers in the field of grant writing that not a day goes by I am not grateful we found National Financial Advisors. I can't recommend them highly enough. If you want to grow your business, contact National Financial Advisors."

Wendy Glandis - Kitchen Corner Cafe

"National Financial Advisors created a great web site for my business.  They worked with us to fully realize our vision.  If you're looking for quality work and great customer service - look no further.  National Financial Advisors is a Home Run!"
Bob Littsfield - Advanced Electric Co.

"When our organization turned its attention to grant writing, it became obvious that we did not have the time or the staff that was required to research and conduct a successful grant writing campaign. We were recommended to the team at National Financial Advisors. We found the perfect company who would understand all about us and outside contacts/partners/collaborators. We submitted a successful FIRST FIVE COMMISSION proposal under their expert guidance. Thereafter, we developed an action plan for researching, writing and submitting grants on a monthly basis...and it, too, was successful. We thank this team for its dedication to their clients and the community."
Maggie Doglesong - Elm Community Center

FICTION, NFA is in wrong business, they need to publish their own books, can fill library shelves with fiction

WOW, how many numbers does this company run, dozens?? probably, wonder how I can find them all so more are not scammed

NFA Group employee post from another number, not as many as here, maybe new number to get more victims, just put 888-800-0178 in search phone number box,good god this one has pages and pages, sickening

"this company is a fake, i know all about how they run there business. the people they are only in the for money in there pocket. They will tell you they can make a business plan and web which they do but giving you the money they dont. Working for them showed me the people they are and thats liars and crooks."

ABOVE IS POST FROM 888-800-0178 site      BEWARE  anyone know of other numbers they operate from? thanks, please post

nfa is not a member of BBB, 100% confirmed by BBB
BBB report states that, that's why they rank a high B-
if a member they would have to reply to complaints, submit to mediation, and RESOLVE valid complaints, which of course would affect their rating, IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO BE A MEMBER, apparently not part of their mission and obligation to any that fall for scheme.

CHALLENGE: DEAR NFA, skeptic overload, et.al.:::

SIGN UP AND BECOME A BBB MEMBER, GOT ANYTHING TO LOSE BY DOING SO???

if you have been screwed by nfa, let us know, this email has;

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nfa, nafina, natfina, nat fin adviso, nfa group or any pseudonyms they operate under

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To All, i am a happy customer , i've been with them for 10 months.
I would like to state for the record. (after reading these posts)
NFA never guaranteed me grant money! they explained to me that they will assist my company in locating funding and help me to receive it.
Their agreement clearly states this! As well as it states there are no refunds. For those unhappy customers: a lil advice : READ B4 U SIGN.
And ask questions. Seems to me that most of you complaining are just misinformed. NFA is a third party they cannot legally guarantee you will receive any amount by law.

Hiring a company to research grants is somewhat of a gamble. And you should never spend what you cant afford to lose. For my business i viewed the expense as i would "Advertising". It may pay off or it might not! But i wont know unless i try.

Hope my 2 cents sheds some light.

I am an ex employee of national financial advisors,and I have to say,the company is a complete scam.all of the sales men as well as the owners smoke marijuana in the office as well as promote under age drinking with their telemarketers.the owners buff and vinny have sex with almost all of the poor clueless girls that come in thinking the place is legit just by flashing their cash.they do not tell you the company is a scam when you come to work there.I had to learn that thru other employees.they are constanly afraid the police are going to come up there and bust them.They tell potential customers that they can check the bbb reports but its ultimatley impossible because they operate under so many different names. All of the salesmen use fake names. the owner vinny is married but is having an affair with one of the women in the office.John Goldberg(which I doubt is his real name) it seems is having an affair with the woman in his office,jeanice.She is their top telemarketer.she is very soul less and will pounce on anyones money.this company uses fed ex to collect clients checks I'm assuming to rule out any chance of mail fraud. They tell the clients they do not promise the grant but they do deliver the services they do promise.which is the business plan,the website the letters of intent..that is a load of crap.as soon as the company recieves your money they are done with you.I had to leave them as soon as I found out about what was going on.DO NOT WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.

I am an ex employee of national financial advisors,and I have to say,the company is a complete scam.all of the sales men as well as the owners smoke marijuana in the office as well as promote under age drinking with their telemarketers.the owners buff and vinny have sex with almost all of the poor clueless girls that come in thinking the place is legit just by flashing their cash.they do not tell you the company is a scam when you come to work there.I had to learn that thru other employees.they are constanly afraid the police are going to come up there and bust them.They tell potential customers that they can check the bbb reports but its ultimatley impossible because they operate under so many different names. All of the salesmen use fake names. the owner vinny is married but is having an affair with one of the women in the office.John Goldberg(which I doubt is his real name) it seems is having an affair with the woman in his office,jeanice.She is their top telemarketer.she is very soul less and will pounce on anyones money.this company uses fed ex to collect clients checks I'm assuming to rule out any chance of mail fraud. They tell the clients they do not promise the grant but they do deliver the services they do promise.which is the business plan,the website the letters of intent..that is a load of crap.as soon as the company recieves your money they are done with you.I had to leave them as soon as I found out about what was going on.DO NOT WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.

I am an ex employee of national financial advisors,and I have to say,the company is a complete scam.all of the sales men as well as the owners smoke marijuana in the office as well as promote under age drinking with their telemarketers.the owners buff and vinny have sex with almost all of the poor clueless girls that come in thinking the place is legit just by flashing their cash.they do not tell you the company is a scam when you come to work there.I had to learn that thru other employees.they are constanly afraid the police are going to come up there and bust them.They tell potential customers that they can check the bbb reports but its ultimatley impossible because they operate under so many different names. All of the salesmen use fake names. the owner vinny is married but is having an affair with one of the women in the office.John Goldberg(which I doubt is his real name) it seems is having an affair with the woman in his office,jeanice.She is their top telemarketer.she is very soul less and will pounce on anyones money.this company uses fed ex to collect clients checks I'm assuming to rule out any chance of mail fraud. They tell the clients they do not promise the grant but they do deliver the services they do promise.which is the business plan,the website the letters of intent..that is a load of crap.as soon as the company recieves your money they are done with you.I had to leave them as soon as I found out about what was going on.DO NOT WORK WITH THIS COMPANY.

I too was contacted by this company called National Financial Advisors.  They have been calling my business phone for months.  One day I decided to hear what they said so I pressed 1 and they took my phone number and called me back.  I asked the lady if it was a scam and why they wanted money up front.  She told my that it wasn't a scam and they needed the money to get started on the paperwork for the grant.  She said they would not get paid if the paperwork wasn't done.  I believed them.  She faxed me the information and on the information it said that we qualified for $136,000.00 and I needed to give them a decision right away.  I told her to call me back tomorrow and I would give her my answer.  In the meen time I had my accountant do some investigating and he told me it was a scam.  He said they would ask for picture id's and bank statements.  If I would have sent them the information we would have had nothing in our account and probably would have had many bills made from our credit.  Please be careful and fully check out anything that is free.

you should never have to put money up front for a grant or offer 2 types of picture id and bank statements.  By doing so you set yourself up for identity theft and for them to clear your checking account.  They would have all of your personal information and bank account!

Frank Powers, Joseph Goldberg, John Goldberg, Jason Ostrowski, brian Williams, michael jones, paula white ashley are some of the pseudonyms used

If you check our record, license, BBB, chamber of commerce, etc. you will find that we have NEVER been accused or commited identity theft!

they have / send no agreement
you can only be happy if you didn't send a dime to these scumbags

what did you pay       what did you get

post the "agreement" you got, redact your personal info

you won't do it cause you are nfa scumbag liar

liar posting "read b4 u sign", the only signature involved with them is one on bottom of check they steal from you, they send NO agreement

A good BBB report means nothing -

IF they pay BBB dues – BBB DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPORT COMPLAINTS AGAINST DUES PAYING MEMBERS.  
They don’t want to lose those fees – so they side with the fraudulent business over the consumer.  They do not post complaints against dues paying members.
Read all about why the BBB cannot be trusted. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/001/ripoff0001343.htm


MORE ON GRANT SCAMS
from consumeraffairs.com
Government Grant Scams
The "free money" scam has been around almost as long as the human species.
It has more variations than a bulldog has wrinkles but you can count on one thing: the government (any government) does not simply give money away to individuals. Anyone who tells you differently has larceny in his heart.
If you give him your bank account number, he will soon have your funds in his pocket.
It does no good to list all of the names used by these bunko artists because a.) they change all the time and b.) every single free-money government-grant offer is a scam. Period.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/03/grant_scam_ads.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/scam_alerts/grant.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/03/ftc_stimulus_scam.html


Also check out the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WEBSITE – Consumer Protection about GRANT SCAMS