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    3480 Vine Street, Suite 200
    Riverside, CA 92507
    Phone: (951) 686-0335
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    Betty Boop
    From the Better Business Bureau: F rating; see below for Lake Elsinore address, phone number and crappy record.
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    Atlantic Resource Management
    Address:           32295 Mission Trail
    Lake Elsinore, CA  92530
    Tel: (888) 393-6044
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    Betty Boop
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    Calls from following numbers:
    888-490-4925
    951-286-6726
    214-310-4915
    Left the following FRAUDULENT message: "Hello my name is Michael Jones and I'm trying to reach a xxxxxxx in reference to a complaint that has been forwarded to my office. If you need to discuss the possible pending action being filed on this complaint. You'll need to call 888-490-495 that's the issue and the just legal department. Case number xxxxxxxxxx. Thank you"

    This is a classic scammer, attempting to collect on out-of-date (statute of limitations) debt. Vultures.  Pitiful of vagrants.  DON'T FALL FOR IT. THERE IS PLENTY OF INFORMATION OUT THERE, FREE, REGARDING THESE CROOKS.  DON'T ALLOW THEM TO ENGAGE YOU. BETTER YET, DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE PHONE NUMBER.  REMEMBER AS A CHILD, YOUR MOTHER TOLD YOU TO NEVER OPEN THE DOOR TO A STRANGER. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.
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    Interesting that they are now adding "possible" to the message, as that indicates they may be feeling some heat from their usual highly illegal messages claiming suit had been filed when it had not.

    That heat would not come from consumers complaining directly to them, as they pose no risk.  It implies they have been contacted by some authority, FTC, state AG, etc. perhaps with a subpoena for information.

    Message still implies that they sue, when evidence indicates they don't, can't, and are probably faking the "debt".
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    Cat fan
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    I got a call on March 29, 2011 from someone wanting to know if I was going to be home so they could serve me a summons.  They then told me I could call 888-490-4925, and they could help me "settle" the matter.  First off, if someone is going to serve you, they will not call and see if you will be home.  This would only give you a chance to run.  Secondly, a process server cannot stop the case by you simply making a payment.  They refused to validate the debt in my case as well.  Mr. Garcia told me they mailed a letter to me 45 days ago, and that they do not have to send anything else out.  He did however email me a very bogus looking letter.  I did a reverse address search on their address, which is 32995 Mission Trails Suite 8385-20.  This is not a valid suite number.  The suite numbers in this complex are F8, F9, and so on.  I got very suspicious when I saw there was a postal annex in this complex, so I called the Lake Elsinore post office.  I gave the information to them, and they checked with the actual mail carrier for that route.  She said the numbers they are using for the suite number are actually linked to a postal box inside.  They said that it is a "drop" mail box so they can't be traced.  I have checked with my local circuit clerk to verify that nothing had been filed against me.  When I told them the story, and faxed them the email letter he sent me, they took it to the local district attorney.  I also reported them to the FTC, and will be reporting them to the attorney general.
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    In addition, forward your information to the Riverside office of the FBI.
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    . replies to Question
    They are calling you because they think they can con you out of money, especially if you are afraid they might damage your credit.
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    better look
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    I just went through the same trouble with this AF Group. When I asked for a written copy of the debt the man began to attack my character and tried to bully me into paying. He told he didn't have to give me any information in writing until my court date. I called my sister who is a lawyer and told her. She told me it is law for them to provide proof of my debt in writing. She called and asked to speak to their legal department and the man became antsy & gave her the run around. I called and reported them to FTC and GCB.
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    Resident47
    } "He told he didn't have to give me any information in writing until my court date."

    Uh-huh. That kind of hostile bluff indicates there is zero proof of claim.

    Your sister was correct. This rep's statement is total bull, and you didn't need a lawyer to tell you so. It's all there in the FDCPA. At this point you can consider more than merely filing complaints. You can bring suit for what sounds like multiple violations
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    Pull your credit reports, and you will probably find a very recent inquiry under one of their names:  HGG, ARM, AF Group, Pacific Management, PMG, or something similar.  You can add FCRA "permissible purpose" violations to the FDCPA deceptive and abusive collection violations.

    Their use of threats of "arrest" or "lawsuits", fake "process server" calls to relatives,and abuse and bluff when asked for proof of this "debt" point to a con.  They appear to be attempting to con people using information obtained from their own credit reports.

    In addition, since they are "debt collectors" as defined by FDCPA (despite their claim to the contrary), if they fail to MAIL you a letter within 5 days notifying you of the debt, of your right to dispute and request information on it, and of their address, they are in violation of FDCPA for that failure. NO ONE is reporting receiving this legally required "g" letter, another indication this is a scam.
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    DH
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    I just cheaked one of the credit bereus I couldn't cheak the other two their ID verifaction asked about loans I've never had. So I couldn't give them the answer they wanted. I gotta mail away for their reports. Looks like there is gonna be court dates in my future for idenity theft. Anyways I've been getting calls from a collection agency for a card I never had. Well I cheaked my report and your right Hgg showed up cheaking on the one I was able to see They probably cheaked the other two also. (Good thing is that report is completely accurate) The card didn't show up tho.  Still find it tho every time I tell them I never had a visa from that bank(exact words) they hang up on me.
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    . replies to DH
    Since HGG is one of the Corona Scam front names, you know they have your old account information.  Do not be surprised if they claim you "owe" them some "debt" that sounds like an old account on your reports.

    There are reports that FTC is actively investigating them.  Give FTC a call.
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    Stacy
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    I have dealt with these scammers twice...once last year when i was scared into paying them 300 and this year again when they tried for another 500....they refuse to give you anthing in writing and also said i had been sued, and of course my county had no record of this and i was never served. Please noone pay them anything...I have filed complaints with the BBB, FTC, and My Attorney Generals Office. I found out that their company isnt even bonded to collect 3rd party comsumer debt in the state of Tx where I am....he didnt seem to care when I told him that..... he said I eaither didnt listen or was just stubborn and hard headed....Nope...I'm just not getting scammed out of any more money.....BEWARE!!!!!!!
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    Talk to the Texas AG.

    The Corona Scam operates under more than 50 names, but it is all the same people, all located in Corona CA, despite the many names, phone numbers, and mail drops.

    There has been a consumer report that one of the Corona Scam fronts was issued a cease and desist order by the Texas AG for violating Texas debt collection laws regarding licensing and bonding.

    Since they are all the same scam, if they are continuing to threaten Texas residents, even under a different name, they are in violation of that order.  

    Attorneys General don't like people playing name games to evade their orders.

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