Getting more calls after signing up on the Do Not Call List

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    slg replies to slg
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    L mistyped the last psrt of the last sentence:  they can still call you.

    P.S.  You also should understand that the list is updated too often for legit companies to have a updated list of numbers.
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    BigA replies to slg
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    Simply contacting a business does not give them permission to call you back.  You need to have an established business relationship or have asked for information that would require a callback, i. e. calling and asking "what are your hours? or "Where are you located?" wouldn't allow a call back.
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    Resident47 replies to Deborah Diehl
    Your comparison is a little unfair. It's fairly easy to punish drivers who commit moving violations because their locations are not a secret and their ability to drive is anchored to handy databases of personal licensing and vehicle registration. If you became an FTC employee next week, you would face the same problem of corporate anonymity, and sometimes immunity, as the other three dozen staffers said to be assigned to junk calls.

    The bad actors you want to bust have usually gone to great lengths to hide themselves behind shell companies, multiple names, and spoofed Caller ID. Others which are more visible cloak themselves in legal precedent and the argument that they cause no concrete harm. If you do corner one long enough to sue, you'll be fighting resistance from Copilevitz & Canter or some other corporate defender who will whine that you are denying First Amendment rights, restricting trade, killing jobs, and make any other specious argument to protect unethical companies. This goes on for months or years until the defendant wins or settles for a fraction of its deserved penalty. We would all like regulatory action to be straightforward, but that's not the world we live in.
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    not Michael replies to slg
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    list is updated too often for legit companies to have a updated list of numbers.
    The list is updated monthly  and the users have 1 month to update their software.  If you add your number today, September 3, it goes on the updated list that is distributed on October 1.  It becomes illegal to call you on November 1.  At least that's how I understood it when the law was passed.
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    Ziva replies to BigA
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    I agree with you, I have also signed up for the Do Not Call list and have found that my calls have been cut in half.  While I still might get an occasional call from a scam outfit, at least I know it is a scam outfit now because no legitimate company would call me if I am on the list.
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    Marilyn replies to VeraD
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    I was getting about 10 calls a day on my home phone (which used to be unlisted through Cinti Bell), after we transferred to RoadRunner phone, computer and TV.   About three weeks ago, I signed up for the DO NOT CALL list.  I now get calls on my cell phone as well as home phone.  I kept note today from 8:00am - 4:00 PM and received 18 on my home phone and 16 on my cell.  Luckily I have caller ID on both and can hang up, however, I still have to check to see if I have a business call or something important.  How do I stop this annoyance.
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    Yoda1725 replies to Marilyn
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    It takes 4 weeks for the DNC to kick in.

    https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0108-national-do-not-call-registry

    "How long does it take?
    Your phone number should show up on the Registry the next day. Most sales calls will stop once your number has been on the Registry for 31 days. You can verify that your number is on the Registry by visiting donotcall.gov or calling 1-888-382-1222"
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    B-Edwards replies to Brian
    The cost of the list is significant.  As it has been pointed out before, a legit business would not be likely to shell out hard dollars for a list of names of people who explicitly Do NOT want to get your calls.  Does that make sense to you?  For the few legit telemarketers out there, a list that is worth calling is very expensive, and very accurate.  Take some time and learn about how the system works before sharing your "Two Guys in Bar" musings.   I am not a fan of the system as it stands, but the conspiracy theories surrounding the list are getting to be urban legend.
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    "DO NOT CALL LIST cost?
    Fees on the National Do Not Call Registry are based on the number of area codes that are in your subscription. The first five area codes in a subscription are free. After that, each area code costs $59 up to a maximum of $16,228 for all the area codes in the US."
    Criminals, they are less apt to care about the DNC, in my opinion.  Even if they get the data off the back of a truck at a discount, so what?  Technology steps in with high speed dialers.  Why pay anything?  Crooks like low overhead.
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    See if this stays
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    So if 99% of unwanted calls are not legitimate business's, and your still getting tons of calls, and all you have to do with the 1% of legit business callers is lie and say your on the list, which stops them from calling, then it is a no brainer, the list does not work, and why would you want to share your number associated with your name?  What are we taxpayers funding this for?
    Since 2004 the FTC has only about 10 cases a year, they have raked in about $140 million dollars for THEM. Then when are WE taxpayers funding this?  If it does not stop 99% of calls?  Why don't we taxpayers get this for free?  I would say this is a VERY lucrative business for the FTC.  Get taxpayers money, do about 10 cases a year, get $10,000,00 a year for it.

    It took the India police to do something about the IRS scam, not our own FTC.  Could they not afford to send someone to India to shut down these calls centers with the support of India?  Why is the FTC not fining the Telecommunications companies that provide VOIP to scammers?  Lots of unanswered questions if you ask me.
    And you should be asking yourself, do i want MY phone number on a list that anyone can buy with a credit card.
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    Yoda1725 replies to See if this stays
    Your assertion that "What are we taxpayers funding this for?"  is incorrect, it is funded by the legitimate telemarketers who are required to pay for the list.
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    Your Stupidity Shows replies to See if this stays
    It will stay up as a testament as to how extremely stupid and uneducated you are. There are so many holes in your theory it make a piece of Swiss cheese look sad by comparison.  As to the India police shutting down the IRS scam, sorry, but that was one call center out of thousands.  Makes them look good though doesn't it.  Why heck, even you bought it.
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    William replies to See if this stays
    "It took the India police to do something about the IRS scam, not our own FTC."

    The US government has no jurisdiction in India.

    "Could they not afford to send someone to India to shut down these calls centers with the support of India?"

    The police in India don't know where these call centers are located. In a recently reported case, a "new employee" realized it was a criminal operation and reported it to his local police, who then got "one of their own" to become employed in that particular building to get evidence for a raid. They subsequently found other buildings also used by that operation.

    There are 1.2 billion people in India, and if 1% are criminals, that is 10 million people. I speculate only a few hundred thousand of all criminals are doing these have-to-use-a-telephone scams. Scattered throughout a country that almost twice the size of Alaska. YOU go there and try to find the criminals.

    "Why is the FTC not fining the Telecommunications companies that provide VOIP to scammers?"
    Can't fine the companies that are not in the USA.
    You need to find yourself a telecommunications engineer and ask why VOIP is so hard to trace.

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