Getting more calls after signing up on the Do Not Call List

Vera, you're not crazy. I'm finding this to be true as well.

Take you name off the list, and see how many calls you start receiving.  Not only will you still receive calls from criminals, but you will receive calls from legitimate telemarketers.

I am having the same issues, since I am listed my number on the do not call registry, I get 10 times more scam and soliciting calls then I have ever before.  I have had this same cell number for over 15 years and would get a scam call once in a while, but my home number was getting them regular, so I decided to put all of our numbers on the registry.  Now all 3 numbers are constantly getting these unwanted calls.  When the registry first came out, I put my home number on that list, I have had that number for over 30 years now.  From what I understood is that is only stays registered 5 years, not sure if that is accurate, just have heard it a few times from different sources.

Yet another poster who signed up for a govt freebie, but was unable to understand what it does.


Fact: The Do Not Call list is NOT a call blocker!
The DNC list is a LIST, subscribed to / purchased by legitimate telemarketers, so they know who not to call. The FCC does not give away the list!

Fact: Telephone numbers on the Registry don’t expire.  You do NOT have to re-register annually.

Fact: Scammers and spammers ignore the DNC list.
Many use "war dialers" to quickly dial phone numbers.  After all, phone numbers are just numbers, and are no secret!  (Arabic numbers were invented about 500 AD, so even stupid scammers know about them by now).

Fact: The DNC list does not apply to NON-sales calls, such as political calls, charities, surveys, debt collectors and businesses with which you have done business with during the previous 18 months.

Fact:  Spam callers can be blocked by getting a real call blocker.
 Google (or your favorite search engine) is your friend.

You may also read real answers to similar problem posts or rants about the DNC list or phone spammers/scammers here:
http://phonehelp.2truth.com/faqs.html

More information about the Do Not Call Registry is at https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0108-na ... registry#basics

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Please reply to this post, to let us know you read it, or have taken suitable actions to protect yourself.  Your failure to reply indicates you prefer to remain ignorant of the facts.

" ...just have heard it a few times from different sources."
Yet you do not name those sources, and when you heard/read those sources.
Congress wrote the laws, and the Federal Trade Commission writes the regulations.
Your primary source should be the Federal Trade Commission, not "different sources" as those might be out-of-date.

Your phone numbers are getting calls because there are far more scammers now, and all of them are trying new sets of numbers to call, because once a number is figured out to be a scam, most people block the number, or a third-party service blocks the number. These scammers do not coordinate with each other. Scammers located in India pretending to be Microsoft or the IRS are not exchanging numbers with fake charities and fake political organizations in the USA.

My cell phone service is provided by AT&T. Today I got a call with one of AT&T's 800-numbers - and there are several pages of reports that scammers are spoofing the number. If AT&T cannot prevent an imposter calling an AT&T customer with a spoofed AT&T number, I have to figure the phone companies are just plain stupid, as the other phone companies have the same problem.

} The FCC does not give away the list!

Nor would it, as the DNCR is not under that Commission's management. The FTC does in fact grant free DNCR access to qualified Exempt Organizations for the purpose of voluntary compliance.

    "Who must pay the fee? .... Charities and political organizations that voluntarily want to suppress calls to consumers whose numbers are on the Registry may access the Registry at no cost."
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-cent ... le#payingaccess
from: Complying with the Telemarketing Sales Rule

see also: What is an Exempt Organization?
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-cent ... -tsr#exemptorgs
from: Q&A for Telemarketers & Sellers About DNC Provisions in TSR

Maybe we should correct our own homework before wagging a yardstick at those who allegedly "remain ignorant of the facts".

"Different sources" include innumerable web pages from around 2003 to 2007 which are still rattling about in the background. They state a five year renewal cycle for registrations, which was correct at the time. However, the program was such an early popular success that registrations were all made permanent just as the first batch neared expiration in Spring 2008. Those numbers don't budge until they are disconnected, reassigned, or removed by the registrant.

Do Not Call Registrations Permanent and Fees Telemarketers Pay to Access Registry Set

We've had plenty of arguments in several threads over the "DNCR As Fraud Resource" claims. We cannot have another based again on slight anecdotes. As before, I demand substantiation. Let's see the spreadsheets, the inbound call logs, the Caller ID display photos, whatever a person has -- which are complete and cover several years -- to support a spike in illegal nuisance calls post-registration. Let us also see what has been done to protect phone numbers from data miners and marketing list compilers who lurk in the shadows of our every financial transaction.

Let's also acknowledge that in lieu of bulletproof records of inbound calls and tight control of phone number disclosure, there is only human memory, well known to be fallible, incomplete, and prone to manipulation. I would also factor in what I don't have a snappy term for, the heightened awareness of things which concern us in the present. For example, every time I've been window shopping for a specific motor vehicle, various examples of the same vehicle will suddenly seem more numerous on the roads. I offer that renewed vigilance against nuisance phone calls makes them similarly appear more numerous. Back I turn, away from faulty memory and toward "the docs" if I want to accurately graph a trend.

The one thing that also needs to be taken into consideration is that as crooks figure out that it is easier and safer to sit in front of a phone with a program that dials thousands of numbers and use that phone to con money out of people, the call volume has increased to proportions never before seen.  That also has to be factored in, and most people would not be able to accurately calculate whether they are receiving more calls simply because they put their name on a list.  Also, lest we not forget that those people are certainly not going to buy anything when cold called, so why would it fit into their business model?

Unfortunately, we will always hear all these arguments over and over again, because someone told them or they read it on the web, and it certainly must be true.

You're not the only one. It happened to me too. I received maybe two calls a year, but since my wife put our numbers on the list, I've been getting them about once a day. Can't be a coincidence.

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Also, lest we not forget that those people are certainly not going to buy anything when cold called, so why would it fit into their business model?

This is the thing. The business model of "buy DNC list, start calling" is a bad business model. So the idea of people getting more calls solely due to being on the DNC list doesn't make sense. People don't understand that what really happening is "call everyone" is a profitable business model. And they aren't checking to see if you're on the DNC or not.

My calls are at 1.28 per month for the 18 months prior to putting my number on the DNC  on 1/23/16.  I am now at 2.14 per month for the 14 months after 2/23/16 when the DNC went into effect.  The kicker here is that between 4/3 and 4/10/17, I received 6 calls, more than any other time ever.  This indicates to me that they are amping up the calls because of tax refunds and I am wondering if their actual revenues are down due to the fact that more people are becoming educated and not falling for the scams, along with increased competition.  I'm sure that the scam market is probably becoming saturated with more and more crooks deciding that it is safer to sit at home and scam over the phone than it is to go out and rob.

The number of scam calls I get has gone up in the last couple of years.  Part of that is because I'm looking to change jobs so answer just about any call that comes during normal business hours.  And I think some of it is because more dishonest people have discovered how cheap and easy it is to get money by scamming dumb Americans over the phone.

I had the same problem. I had hardly any calls before signing up on the DNC. Now I get about 10 calls a day either from not listed to blocked numbers. If you say there is no connection then how come so many are having the same issue after signing up.

Simple! Those making the calls are criminals and are into breaking laws not following them! They don't care if you're on the National Do-Not-Call list or not, they are out to scam you. Legitimate businesses DO abide by the list and won't call you, whereas scamming criminals will blatantly violate the laws in place!