How to report annoying Telemarketing calls.

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    Tamianth replies to MJG
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    The question therein lies: which God?   ;)
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    MJG replies to Tamianth
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    It is probably someone who worships the idol of  money!
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    Tamianth replies to MJG
    I was thinking more of Loki and Are's.. Mischief and War.. both trouble makers
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    Resident47 replies to deleted post
    It may need to be underlined for newer readers that this whole "fresher" story has been copied wholesale, and it's a favorite among enemies of this site. It's been dug up and reburied enough to wear out the shovel. All this dimwit had to do was slap in a title where its user name goes, and even that couldn't be done right.

    Next I imagine it'll be the popular "mad mom" myth, absurdly pinning blame on 800Notes -- which you may have noticed is not a social media site -- for ruining some school kid's reputation. These legends and more are stashed away on flimsy smear sites and in other online forums which are not policed well for spam, ready to be plucked periodically and held aloft by profiteering liars as "proof" that we're all spellbound by one who is allegedly worse.  

    As an example, here's a thread page which turns a year old next week. It's typical of the lazy finger-pointing from frustrated fraudsters, tossing up links and hoping everyone else is just as lazy in their own reckoning.

    https://800notes.com/forum/ta-5ea19953c2f6ca8 ... -1-561-615-0843
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    Resident47 replies to GIGI
    Not that I can tell you precisely how dialer hardware and software works, but let's point to the obvious. It's a machine, which never takes coffee breaks and doesn't get tired. I suppose it can be set to dial and abandon six times a minute if that's what some boiler room bully wants.

    Years ago I had some clown from a well known bank calling nine to twelve times daily for weeks, never leaving messages or sending any useful Caller ID. I can prove it was no accident. The mystery calls ended the same day I uprooted my account and transplanted to a competitor.

    You're right about the lack of intel on the number you'd cited. However, since your posting, several others have reported similar ridiculous call patterns, which any otherwise lazy county judge would have to agree create harassment. One person a few hours ago claims it's connected to a dubious work-from-home operation. How they expect you to work with the phone ringing all day, I can't figure.

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-417-800-2376
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    Nimrod replies to MJG
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    Did a quick Google search and turned up this definition of "fresher":
    "Fresher is a term used in India to describe jobs that do not require experience."
    (http://jobsearch.about.com/od/jobsearchglossary/g/fresher-job.htm)

    This, and the obvious lack of skill in the English language, may be a clue of where this shill is posting from.
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    yef replies to Nimrod
    I had no idea what "fresher" meant either.  The first thing that came to mind was "fluffer".  Now I see what it really means.  Though I suppose a porn producer could hire a "fresher fluffer"  ;-)  Might be a good job for our lying shill.
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    MJG replies to Nimrod
    Good job, Nimrod!!  Thanks for that information.
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    Tamianth replies to Nimrod
    Like Yef, I didn't have any idea of what he was on about with the fresher thing.. Thanks Nimrod!
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    yef replies to Resident47
    Yeah -- I'd just LOVE to demonstrate my new shill repellent products on that fool!  I'd be glad to do it "on cam" too!
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    Romaine
    I have been receiving calls from a telemarketer, for several months, I finally got fed up, and contacted the
    FTC, I spoke with a representative on the phone 1-877-382-4357, is the number, and I also went online, and made a complaint to the Do Not Call Registry, ,I've been on the Do Not Call Registry since 2005, when I spoke with the representative from the FTC, she took my information, and told me that my complaint  will be sent to the proper authority.  I do not know how many of you received calls from the Dominican Republic, because that is where my calls we're coming from, it started at 9 in the morning, until
    7 in the evening, until I would take my phone off the hook, this is how bad it was, finally the calls stopped, after I made the complaint to the FTC, and to the Do Not Call Registry, and also call  your phone company, and ask them could they put a feature on your phone to block unwanted calls, I have it, and it works.  I hope this information can help someone, the FTC is very serious about telemarketers, trying to scam people, and
    especially Seniors.
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    Alice MacArthur
    I just submitted a complaint to the FCC. It took a while to figure out how to navigate to the actual form. I complained about the number 212-677-5122
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    Querida_Ge replies to Aguanga Cowboy
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    Can anyone say if this video titled " How To Stop Telemarketing Calls " gives the correct advice?
    It seems to make sense and it is funny too.
    You can click on the icon that looks like a file for a transcript, so you don't need to make notes (just learned this one)

    How To Stop Telemarketing Calls
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwxOjQ5X4g0
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    Resident47 replies to Querida_Ge
    I would say the amateurish short from "VideoJug" is more concerned with being funny than making sense, and falls down on both counts. Mark this an example of why wanna-be sketch comedy writers should not be making television or giving legal advice -- not to mention the aphorismic danger of "a little knowledge". I'll rebut the short's shaky claims in order of appearance.

    The short is trapped in self-contradiction over how one should request an end to calls from a given sales entity, advising both "getting off" a call list and adding an affected number *to* an internal no-call list. Since the TSR demands that sales callers (and commercial fundraisers) maintain and honor their own no-call lists, the demand to *ADD* numbers should be the only one you rehearse. While a sales caller often works from a list of qualified leads, a contracted call center may not be able to alter that list, only scrub it against the "no-calls" compiled. At the more devious telepest firms, employees may be trained to *reject* any request which sounds like "take me off", since that action as phrased is not legally required, despite what the VideoJug voice-over says.

    Later comes a repeated claim that your internal no-call request remains valid for "ten years". Well, I can't find that provision in federal law, which clearly sets *five years* as the minimum enforcement period. Maybe some state law says different, but it's doubtful. There is also a claim that a recipient of a scamming call may "press criminal charges" against the caller. This again would depend on state law, which may or may not elevate a set of nuisance calls to harassment claims which a criminal court might hear. When you sue a telemarketer, it's extremely likely to be a *civil action* only.

    This brings me to the most curious omission of the piece, which burns a lot of time mocking a call center rep character and counting up damage awards before they hatch without once citing the law one would invoke to state a claim. The $500 violation counts refer to the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). I'm amazed there is no mention of its treble damages option, granting up to $1500 for violations found to be "knowing and willful".

    I'm also baffled by the advice to sue in Small Claims court if one is pleading for an award of four or five figures. Sure, you might buy in cheap and get a pre-trial settlement, but if that's your goal a good "intent to sue" package could obviate the filing fee. This has to be done seriously, on the assumption that you'll get an active defense, and if so you want a big-boy court. Federal would be best, (especially since SCotUS finally cleared the air on proper venue a while back) where fewer dirty lawyer tricks work and judges don't need to be taught in painful detail what federal law says.

    The short's structure, which first harps on the federal Do Not Call list as a first "step", may lead a viewer to a common faulty assumption that TCPA enforcement depends on DNC registration. The two are in fact independent, and TCPA has been around twice as long as DNC. However, DNC registration does help to clear that "knowing and willful" hurdle.

    Critical flaws emerge from the production's age. The upload was made in January 2008, which predates regulatory changes such as the Truth In Caller ID Act and last month's revision to the TCPA, which disposed of the flimsy "established business relationship" exemption. Before you press "play" you have good reason to instead consult the FTC, consumer watchdogs, and the many lawyers who help companies with TCPA and Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR) compliance.

    Worse yet, we should not miss that later that same year is when the national epidemic of illegal autodialed sales calls began, enabled by cheap VOIP and Caller ID spoofing which consumer laws cannot control. The majority of today's trashy sales callers have gone out of their way to conceal their true locations and/or shift the jobs to call centers in (mainly) South Asia. To win a TCPA action you need a real address to serve and a defendant. To collect a judgment you need assets you can seize. Both targets are usually much harder to find now.

    I am also compelled to beat up on production values for inattention to set design, focal range, lighting, and "safe title area", the last of which is causing all the graphics to be cropped at the screen edges. This is what you get when frat boys with a cheap HandyCam and a copy of Adobe Premiere think they have all they need to produce coherent instructional video.

    In concept, I agree with the what the short implies. A government opt-out program is not one-stop shopping to end all illegal and unwanted sales calls. We're ten years into the DNC program and most of its registrants refuse to understand that. You're going to get bad actors, and if you want them to feel the big hook you must do the actual work of notification and careful documentation, and yes, maybe prosecute the fools if you can. I object to the short's *execution* of concept. Getting details correct the first time matters, especially if you might want a judge to help you punish your irritants.


    FCC: Unwanted Telephone Marketing Calls
    http://www.fcc.gov/guides/unwanted-telephone-marketing-calls

    FTC: Telemarketing Sales Rule
    http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus27-complying-telemarketing-sales-rule

    Telephone Consumer Protection Act
    http://www.the-dma.org/guidelines/tcpa.shtml
    http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/policy/TCPA-Rules.pdf  [PDF]

    FCC: TCPA Compliance Guide (2012 revisions noted)
    http://www.fcc.gov/document/telephone-consumer-protection-act-1991

    Notes from a legendary consumer litigant
    http://www.dianamey.com/anti-telemarketing-guide/
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    CelticDragon
    Here's a thought guys-flag '1-800 notes is a cam' for slandering Julia-let's see how the f**ker likes that!

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