"Rachel" from Card Services

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    Payback
    The rest is in the hands of the FTC, FCC, and other authorities. Find their owners and bring them to justice. This stupid excuse that it's impossible to find them is lame. You don't have to find them. All you have to do is register a case against the owners of the thousands of numbers registered in their name. The FTC, FCC should have the evidence cause thousands of people have filed complaints.
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    OperatorRJ
    | 3 replies
    Just an FYI, I saw this today on NBCnews.com regarding this issue:  http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/1 ... ocall-scam?lite

    So, voices out there are being heard!
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    Sir Bedevere replies to OperatorRJ
    | 2 replies
    Interesting — they seem to confirm what I've long suspected: “In many cases, it’s actually the same recording being used by lots and lots of scammers,” said the FTC’s Will Maxson.  “They just get the audio file and use it.”

    I also wouldn't be surprised if one or more of these outfits runs their business on a kind of "franchise" basis. We all know that the robo-call goes out from one number and pressing "1" gets you connected to a boiler-room operation somewhere else. So the operation that places the "Rachel" calls could just charge money to independent call centers who sign up to get the referrals. There's no reason why they couldn't contract individuals to sit by their phones and wait for suckers to get routed through. Anyone interested in an opportunity to "Make money working form home"?
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    notgiven replies to Sir Bedevere
    I figure some of them are doing that.  They probably get a lot less training than for the legitimate jobs.
    http://womenforhire.com/work_from_home/virtual_customer_service/
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    Cherryl Walker
    Use Caller ID to screen calls. If you see a name or number you do not recognize, do not answer the call. Simple.

    As has been described at other postings here at 800notes and elsewhere, Rachel and her gang exist as voice recordings only -- recordings that we probably made around 2006. The automatic calling machine on which the  recordings were used was sold sometime later, with Rachel et al still there, and never erased. My dream is to find that machine and smash it to pieces.
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    Payback replies to Sir Bedevere
    I am sure what you've mentioned is correct. The scammers are most probably linked from boiler rooms to houses. VOIP is their method of choice. These people wait patiently, and dial random numbers just to trap some vulnerable person who is foolish enough to answer an unknown number. This is why people should never ever answer a calling coming from an unknown number. Even if the so called number comes from their own state, there's no need to answer it but some people fall for it and answer it thinking its somebody they know.
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    SocJan
    | 1 reply
    Rachel at CARD SERVICES . . .
    . . . endorsed Mitt Romney for President today, the 2012 Fall Equinox.

    The famous phone voice (Google “Rachel at Card Services” to learn more), says Romney will roll back annoying government regulations like the No Call List, which she terms “an insulting and unnecessary Nanny State measure.” Such ‘consumer protections’ unfairly burden small businesses such as Rachel’s highly successful Florida operation. “If Obama wins, he might actually enforce the List,” she warns.

    Rachel, for those who have somehow missed her calls, phones Americans at random, especially the elderly. She explains that she wants to help you reduce your credit card interest rates. You give her your credit card numbers and other personal information. She sells your data to computer hackers in Russia.  

    The Russians, she says, do the actual helping. "I've outsourced that part," she explains. "Mitt understands how outsourcing leverages American entrepreneurial talent (mine, for example), and helps ambitious Americans like me succeed in growing our wealth."

    She is creating jobs for Americans, Rachel says. "I employ scads of callers who could never come up with a creative idea like mine," she adds. “I must say it is disappointing how many of them quit my call centers after just a few weeks. Many would rather take government handouts than work for me. It’s hard to find good help these days. I pay $10 an hour, which is very generous for mindless grunt work."

    "I’m a Constitutional originalist. I just want what the nation's founders intended," Rachel insists. "As the Supreme Court has finally acknowledged, we Americans are entitled to say anything we want to each other. People I call can decide for themselves whether to answer their phones. It's up to them to decide to trust me and give me their personal information. Government has no business sticking its bureaucratic nose in. This is private business. We don't need government on our backs."

    Rachel admires Romney’s determination to return America to capitalism’s Golden Age “when we were free to become rich, as God intends for true Americans, his chosen people. Mormons understand this.”

    Is she proud of getting people to reveal their personal information and their credit account numbers?

    "Absolutely!" says Rachel.  "I'm teaching thousands of people one of life’s most valuable lessons. And I make my money directly from the people I teach, unlike those greedy teachers’ union members.”

    What is that lesson?  “Well, ‘Never Trust Anybody’, of course”, she says, smiling. “You knew that!”

    “I built this business all by myself”, she adds, more seriously. "All schooling should be privatized. We in private business can teach the public everything it needs to know better than any politician or bureaucrat. Americans don't need tax-guzzling government to learn that creative greed runs the world.”

    "Mitt Romney gets it," Rachel concludes. "That's why he must win – and appoint more business-friendly Justices to the Supreme Court, men and women who understand free speech and encourage successful American entrepreneurs to buy as much of it as we can. Progress depends on ‘the ones born every minute’, if you take my meaning.” Rachel smiles winningly and winks. She’s relaxed, with friends.

    "Speaking of which: I'm confident that the Koch brothers will get Mitt elected. So I, too, am investing in the American future we all deserve. I’ve ordered ten thousand more robodialing machines.”

    "Elect Mitt!” Rachel urges.  “He knows who you and I are – the real Americans!"
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    elvis replies to SocJan
    Judging by the way Rachel has been running roughshod over America the last four years, with the FTC proving  itself impotent and virtually irrelevant, you'd I'd think the last thing she would want  is a change in administration.
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    Payback
    The ones behind Rachel are guilty of spoofing numbers of companies. But they are idiots. Why would someone answer a phone call from a company that they don't have any business with? Regarding hackers, I bet they have hackers that hack into websites and people's computers. That's one way people's phone numbers end up in their hands. Internet and VOIP are their choices for crime. Like I said in another thread, if the tables were turned in the right direction, they can be pin pointed right to their boiler rooms but that would take a lot of effort.
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    Anonymouse
    | 1 reply
    These scum are making money by sending their bogus Caller ID information to your phone company. Telephone numbers are Calling Name (CNAM) provisioned and stored in a special database accessible to other telecom utilities.  This means that for any outbound call that transmits a special  code corresponding to one of their phone numbers, these criminals collect a fee for transmitting the caller ID information to the Local Exchange Carrier receiving the call.  When you see a  phone number in your caller ID (along with some name like Card Services), your phone company has to reimburse the caller for downloading that info from the database where it’s stored.
    These fees are typically fractions of a cent per call however when these fees are aggregated across tens of millions of outbound calls per week, it amounts to significant money.  Huge volumes of unsolicited telemarketing calls can drive significant revenue into the pockets of these scum sucking criminals. In return your phone company charges you a fee (it may be hidden or $5 to $15 on your phone bill).  Since they only pay out a small portion of this fee you can see why your phone company allows this to continue.
    If someone makes the mistake of answering the phone and falling for their con then it is just icing on the cake for them. These people are the lowest form of filth on this planet.
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    somebody
    | 2 replies
    contact the consumerfinance.gov

    1-888-707-7117


    Consumer Credit Group LLC
    Phone: (877) 506-4908 (Disconnected)
    Fax: (866) 290-5758    
    2300 Tall Pines Dr Ste 125, Largo, FL 33771-5319
    The Indiana Attorney General's Office has filed on February 23, 2012 against Consumer Credit Group. The suit claims that Consumer Credit Group has violated the Indiana Do Not Call Law and and the Auto-Dialer Act, also known as the robo-call law. It also states that the business violated Credit Service Organization Act and Deceptive Consumer Sales Act by not obtaining a $25,000. surety bond with the state.
    Contact Information
    Principal: Mr. Dale Robinson (Manager)
    Mr. Matthew Franklin
    Mr. Tom Jenkins
    Mr. Scott Klein copy this and keep posting





    company info:

    “live for success today”
    770-410-1331
    shutdown their website after I first posted

    Consumer Credit Group
    Phone: (877) 506-4908 (Disconnected)
    Fax: (866) 290-5758    
    2300 Tall Pines Dr Ste 125, Largo, FL 33771-5319





    BROADSTREET HOLDINGS, LLC






    Consumer Credit Group
    2300 Tall Pines Dr Ste 125. Largo, FL 33771-5319
    Saint Petersburg, FL 33701-3610
    (888)707-7117
    (727) 286-9903
    CCG is affiliated with:
    Company Name:     BROADSTREET HOLDINGS, LLC

    Status:     Active    Filing Date:     10/04/2010
    Entity Type:     Domestic Limited-liability Company    File Number:     L10000103714

    Company Age:     1 Year 5 Months        
             
    Principal Address:     121 S. Orange Avenue
    Orlando, FL 32801    Mailing Address:     P.o. Box 2424
    Orlando, FL 32801
    Registered Agent:     Rios, Elkin D
    28 W. Esther St.
    Apt. C
    Orlando, FL 32806

    Consumer Credit Group LLC
    Phone: (877) 506-4908 (Disconnected)
    Fax: (866) 290-5758    
    2300 Tall Pines Dr Ste 125, Largo, FL 33771-5319

    The Indiana Attorney General's Office has filed on February 23, 2012 against Consumer Credit Group. The suit claims that Consumer Credit Group has violated the Indiana Do Not Call Law and and the Auto-Dialer Act, also known as the robo-call law. It also states that the business violated Credit Service Organization Act and Deceptive Consumer Sales Act by not obtaining a $25,000. surety bond with the state.
    Contact Information
    Principal: Mr. Dale Robinson (Manager)
    Mr. Matthew Franklin
    Mr. Tom Jenkins
    Mr. Scott Klein

    Also:
    Liveforsuccesstoday.com
    The website lists a seemingly bogus address:  10801 Starkey, Seminole, fl.  This is a shopping center. It has a UPS store, they may have a box at this store.  
    Some further research on www.liveforsuccesstoday.com reveals:
    Registrant:
    consumer credit group
    14830 56th st. n
    clearwater, Florida 33760
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: LIVEFORSUCCESSTODAY.COM
       Created on: 07-Dec-11
       Expires on: 07-Dec-13
       Last Updated on: 07-Dec-11

    Administrative Contact:
       robinson, dale  drobinson50@live.com
       consumer credit group
       14830 56th st. n
       clearwater, Florida 33760
       United States
       (727) 692-7295
    Robinson is connected to a Lokesh S. James, who is also affiliated with several other B.S. (probably) companies.
    Information on James from county tax collector’s office:
    JAMES, LOKESH S — Real Estate at 7845 12TH ST N, ST PETERSBURG
    Billing address 2011 annual bill JAMES, LOKESH S
    1983 IOWA AVE NE
    ST PETERSBURG, FL 33703-3425
    Paid 2011-11-30 $793.74
    Receipt #727-11-000340

    Homestead exemption Account number R273745 / Parcel Number 25/30/16/98406/001/0220
    JAMES, LOKESH SIMON — Real Estate at 9750 68TH ST, PINELLAS PARK
    Owner address 2011 annual bill JAMES, LOKESH SIMON
    9750 68TH ST
    PINELLAS PARK, FL 33782-2965
    Paid 2011-11-25 $1,019.38
    Receipt #0-11-000140

    Homestead exemption Account number R209860 / Parcel Number 19/30/16/71209/000/0260
    WELDON, CHARLTON P — Real Estate at 1983 IOWA AVE NE, ST PETERSBURG
    Billing address 2011 annual bill SINGH, TAMIKA
    JAMES, LOKESH
    1983 IOWA AVE NE
    ST PETERSBURG, FL 33703-3425
    Paid 2011-11-29 $7,310.52
    Receipt #0-11-000240

    Homestead exemption Account number R29159 / Parcel Number 03/31/17/93878/009/0030
    **Weldon may only be the prior owner of this residence – he may or may not have any business affiliation with James/Robinson.
    Caller: BROADSTREET HOLDINGS, LLC
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    Payback replies to Anonymouse
    Good point, and I agree that a filth will remain filth no matter how hard they try to hide their filth. The low lives take advantage of people and they deserve to be chased and dealt with cause if they are left alone, they'll continue ripping people off. Phone companies should realize that people have the free will to change their phone numbers and even companies if they charge them for some telemarketing crooks. Siding with telemarketing crooks is just plain stupid.
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    Payback replies to somebody
    I bet you these people broke the laws of every single state when they started scamming.
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    greg
    | 1 reply
    It's a scam. They don't care about threats to report them, they don't care about the
    'Do not call list', they will only stop when law enforcement steps in. I bait them a little,
    till they ask for a credit card number, then I call them thieves and liars and hang up,
    or they do. Wasting their time is the only thing that works. Keep in mind they have
    your name and number. Don't threaten them, as tempting as that is. I never came as
    close to using the 'N' word as when dealing with these criminals....but they come in
    all colors and nationalities and cultures, they just want to steal your money.
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    Payback replies to greg
    Steal money just to renovate their broke boiler rooms or set up another boiler room somewhere else, and the stink must be unbearable. Talk about a bunch of mutants lying and sweating at the same time.

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