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    joann replies to Karen Snyder
    funny.  I know of a law firm known as morgan & morgan, not morgan and associates.
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    joann replies to Robert
    really robert?  they were so polite with my boss that they told him it was the final countdown.  it is illegal once I tell you not to call my job for you to continue to do so.  better recheck those guidelines.  or I will be contacting a lawyer and by the way sheriffs office was also contacted.  guess what?  they can do what we can't.  reverse lookup of your phone is this what you want?
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    annoyed
    | 1 reply
    They called my job a few days ago claiming to be from the Florida Legal Dept.  My supervisor talked to him and said I was not allowed to take personal calls.  They got nasty and she hung up.  They then proceded to call and call and call.  We have three lines at work, they would let one ring, she's anwser, they would say "your next line is ringing, pick it up" or "here comes the next call" and all three lines would be ringing.  She told them never to call this number back or we would press charges and they must have called at least 50 times, no joke.  Not only that but the loan I had out is paid off.  And i have documentation where payments have been taken out of my checking account.  These people are horrible and nasty.
    • Call type: Debt collector
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    joann replies to Krystal
    all you have to do while you're pursuing the matter is tell your human resources person to call the phone company and have that number blocked from coming in.  this will stop the calls dead in their tracks. it's free and easy.  all they have to do is call.  my supervisor did and the calls stopped immediately.
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    joann replies to annoyed
    look at my post above.  this was told to me by the attorney general's office.  it works, trust me.
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    Frazzled
    This company who called me on my cell phone and at work saying his name was Jermaine Jones.  He had a heavy Indian accent.  I didn't call him back because he wouldn't tell me what company he was with and I basically couldn't understand him. I work at a school and they began calling the main office and harassing the administrative assistants who said that they could not put them through because I was teaching.  They called 30 times in one day.  I called them back and they said that I was going to be arrested the next day for theft.  I paniced and said that I would send them the money and fax an affidavid.  After I calmed down, I called my bank and verified that thee was no deposit then I called a friend and she called them.  They hung up on her when she asked who their company was.  They also have been calling friends of mine saying that I was going to jail and they were liable too.  I told them not to call anymore or I would call the police because it was illegal for them to call me at work.  He said, "Go ahead and call the cops.  I'll wait."  I hung up and called the police who told me that he would call, but there was really nothing he could do.  They hung up on him three times.  When they called at work this morning, my principal called them then she called the police and the school district is tracking down the phone number.  I hope they get what's coming for them.  I was beside myself.
    • Caller: Unsecured Loan Legal Department
    • Call type: Debt collector
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    Confused replies to JD from Washington
    Same thing happened to me today. I just knew I didnt owe this money and could not get details.
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    ms. vaughn replies to Robert
    Hey Robert (if that is really your name) I have a list of names of individuals that work for your phony debt collection agency.  Are your Robert Davis or Robert Jordan or maybe you are Hector Boyd the scammer that has been calling me.  I really do not care which one your are.  I have one question, if you are going to press criminal charges aganist several thousand people at one time across the U.S. how are you going to do that, that has to be very costly for your crew.  

    just so you will know Robert, everyone that you and your buddy's have been calling and talking crazy too, are not stupid.  I just happen to be a grad student who's major just happen to be criminal justice and all 3 of my professors are lawyers and i told them what was going on, and I have recieved a list of phony names and numbers that you are using or have used there are 25 AMERICAN names on this list and 10 different phones numbers and several payday names and other stupid names you created that you use.  If anybody is going to jail it is going to be you and your crew of crooks, just because you are not here in the U.S means nothing.

    do the word Karma, mean anything to you Robert?

    The only people who are going to end up in jail is you and your crew of crooks. I WISH YOU LUCK AND MAY GOD HELP YOU.

    For all the readers please, please, contact your attorney general office, the federal trade commission, BBB, alert your human resouce department and if this scam gets enough attention, and the U.S and these companies here who outsourced jobs to India see what is going on, maybe these companies will bring OUR jobs back.
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    scammer Alert
    They are a scam out of India...do not give them any information.........they obtain your information illegally by hacking into your computer information, if you have applied for a loan or debt consolidation. They obtain your address, ssn, but call you for your 3 digit credit card number on the back. report them immediately to your law enforcement anfd the FBI...SCAMMERS from India w/ nothing better to do!!!
    • Caller: 8887854479
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    Kristy
    | 1 reply
    Steven McGuire has been harassing me at work, telling me to find another job if he gets me fired. First he says to pay $5000 then he says he'll settle for $986.36. Then he called asking to speak to my supervisor. I told him no and then he called back and didn't believe it when the person who answered the phone told him she was my supervisor. Then he said he didn't want to talk to me, saying I refused to pay. I said that if I took out a loan, how much was it for, and that if it was legit I would send him $400 and not a penny more because it was probably for $300. Then he told me to send $450. I only had $400 to send him, so I faxed him a letter telling him that it was illegal to call me at work, and gave him my credit card information to process for $400. He had all my information, including my friend's phone numbers. He has threatened me with arrest. The thing is he won't provide me with proof of my debt at all. I never even heard of US Cash Advance, let alone took out a loan with them. How do I get my money back and report him?
    • Caller: investigating department
    • Call type: Debt collector
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    ms. vaughn replies to Kristy
    this is a scam, and i do not think you will get your money back, more than likely they will call you back asking for more money to close the account.  call your credit card company and see if they can reverse the payment and also have them put a fraud alert on your account.  file a complaint with federal trade commission, your state attorney general office and bbb.  they are listed on bbb as a phony debt collectors.  they can not arrest you for not paying a debt, a lot speculation suggest that these people are in india.  when you file your complaint with the federal trade commission if you have taken a payday loan mention that company in your complaint and when you file your complaint it will ask for address and state but you can leave that blank and enter what you have, his name and phone number. if they and when they contact you again, do not send them any money.
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    waldo
    | 1 reply
    My daughter, who is a minor, received this call yesterday.  They said that her friend had used her info to perp a fraud and criminal proceedings would follow if she did not call back this #.  She is very upset by this and frankly so am I.  The guy's voice was thick Jamaican type accent, and he went on about this debt being "on her shoulders" and "big, big trouble".  I would love to kick this guy's ass up and down.  To call a minor must be a crime, and my daughter says this has been going on for a couple of weeks.  Anyone know the legal recourse i should take here in Florida?
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    Waldo
    | 3 replies
    also, on the caller I.D. the # comes up as +0000.
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    ms. vaughn replies to waldo
    in your case call your attorney general and the federal trade commission and if the people who called your daughter mention a payday company go to the bbb site and file a compliant and file a complaint with what ever company they are suppose to represent, but if it is a name of a payday loan company go online and file a complaint with that company.  i filed a complaint with the payday loan company they said they represented and they responded back to me and gave me a phone number to file a compliant to help them try and track down who ever these idiots are, if she has a phone number do a google search and see what you come up with.  they are a phony debt collection agency and i hope with all the victims out there that they get these fools.
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    ms. vaughn replies to Waldo
    d*@!  did the bozo give her a name, i have a list a got from the bbb with about 25 names on it and 10 phone numbers i am sure they are not using anymore, they probably changed names alot.  this is really a pain in the butt.
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    Ashes replies to Waldo
    | 1 reply
    YES!!! That is what keeps coming up on my phone! But he gave a different number when my supervisor asked them.
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    lamet replies to Robert
    ROBERT/MIKE HENDERSON/GARY OR GARRY JONES

    SCAMMER IS POSTING THIS EXACT SAME MESSAGE UNDER THESE NUMBERS
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson


    SCAMMERS PLACING FALSE POSTINGS UNDER THESE NUMBERS

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose


    LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW

    Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


    MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
    http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

    http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
    Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

    Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

    The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

    The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.”

    The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

    Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.”

    More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

    It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
    This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
    Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
    The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
    The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
    A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
    This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
    Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
    IntellisOurzE BPO
    701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
    C.G. Road Navrangpura,
    Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
    E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
    Website: www.intellisourze.com 
    A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
    Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
    Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
    Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
    908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
    Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
    Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
    Tel. +91.7926871353
    Creation Date: 08-May-2008
    Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
    Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
    (Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
    Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
    This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.


    If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
    1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
    2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
    3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
    4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
    5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

    If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

    By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert .


    Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
    By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com
    Monday, Aug. 3
    Posted 2 p.m.
    Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
    This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
    The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
    What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
    "The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
    Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
    The BBB offers these tips:
    •    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
    •    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
    •    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
    •    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
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    lamet replies to Veronica
    from the info below

    SHOW THIS TO YOUR BOSS!  
    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming.


    THIS IS THE OFFICAL COMPLAINT PROCESS
    If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
    1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
    2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
    3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
    4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
    5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
    If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)





    LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW

    Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


    MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
    http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

    http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
    Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

    Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

    The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

    The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.”

    The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

    Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.”

    More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

    It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
    This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
    Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
    The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
    The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
    A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
    This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
    Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
    IntellisOurzE BPO
    701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
    C.G. Road Navrangpura,
    Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
    E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
    Website: www.intellisourze.com 
    A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
    Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
    Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
    Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
    908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
    Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
    Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
    Tel. +91.7926871353
    Creation Date: 08-May-2008
    Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
    Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
    (Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
    Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
    This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

    If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
    1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
    2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
    3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
    4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
    5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
    If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

    By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert .
    Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
    By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com
    Monday, Aug. 3
    Posted 2 p.m.
    Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
    This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
    The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
    What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
    "The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
    Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
    The BBB offers these tips:
    •    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
    •    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
    •    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
    •    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
  • 0
    LAMET replies to Karen Snyder
    LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW

    Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


    MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
    http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

    http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
    Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

    Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

    The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

    The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.”

    The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

    Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.”

    More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

    It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
    This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
    Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
    The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
    The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
    A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
    This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
    Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
    IntellisOurzE BPO
    701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
    C.G. Road Navrangpura,
    Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
    E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
    Website: www.intellisourze.com 
    A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
    Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
    Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
    Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
    908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
    Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
    Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
    Tel. +91.7926871353
    Creation Date: 08-May-2008
    Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
    Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
    (Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
    Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
    This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

    If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
    1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
    2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
    3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
    4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
    5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
    If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

    By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert .
    Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
    By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com
    Monday, Aug. 3
    Posted 2 p.m.
    Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
    This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
    The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
    What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
    "The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
    Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
    The BBB offers these tips:
    •    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
    •    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
    •    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
    •    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
  • 0
    LAMET replies to Robert
    robert/mike henderson/gary and garry jones  SAME SCAMMER - USING DIFFERENT NAMES POSTING HERE

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson

    also false postings here

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose

    FROM INFO BELOW
    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming.




    LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM – ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW

    Fake Debt Collectors – Terrorizing Consumers

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


    MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
    http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

    http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
    Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

    Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer’s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

    The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves “U.S. National Bank,” “Federal Investigation Bureau,” “United Legal Processing” and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating “off the grid” from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

    The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for “bank fraud” or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, “We are downloading warrants against you” or “We are filing an affidavit against you.” Consumers who don’t immediately fall for the scam are warned, “Only God can help you now.”

    The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, “Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.” Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

    Attorney General McGraw stated, “Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer’s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.”

    McGraw added, “Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.”

    More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General’s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General’s web site.

    It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
    This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
    Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
    The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
    The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
    A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
    This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
    Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
    IntellisOurzE BPO
    701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
    C.G. Road Navrangpura,
    Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
    E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
    Website: www.intellisourze.com 
    A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
    Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
    Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
    Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
    908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
    Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
    Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
    Tel. +91.7926871353
    Creation Date: 08-May-2008
    Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
    Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
    (Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
    Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
    This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.


    FILE COMPLAINTS  HERE :
    If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
    1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
    2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
    3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
    4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
    5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en


    If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

    By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer placing false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina – preparing a new number to use.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer placing false postings as Rose
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert .



    Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
    By Leslie McFadden • Bankrate.com
    Monday, Aug. 3
    Posted 2 p.m.
    Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
    This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
    The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
    What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
    "The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
    Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
    The BBB offers these tips:
    •    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
    •    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
    •    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
    •    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.

Report a phone call from 888-785-4479:

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