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Do not let this ignorant screaming person scare you! I received a call from him on Friday (1/9/08) telling me that I owe over $2,000 and that he is submitting my file to federal crap crap and that they will be coming to my job to arrest me on Monday. At first, I was panicking and he knew it so he played on that. I spoke with an attorney at my company and also called Federal Trade Commission because I was so darn scared, anyway, it is against the law for any individual to arrest you for just a paid day loan which is however illegal. I was amazed that he had so much info on me, he has my ss#, address, work and cell #, everything. This guy kept on calling me, I told him to hold on to speak with the attorney at my office and he hang up, he called back I kept transferring him, he kept hanging up. He called my cell screaming at me and becoming angrier by the minute that I was not falling for his scam. This sucker got our info from some low life and is using it to collect some fast cash off us.  It's obvious that he caught a few people before that's why he keeps repeating this act.

DO NOT LET THIS SUCKER SCARE YOU!!

I recieved a similar call from the same number stating that I had legal charges being brought against me by CashNetUSA and that a warrant had been issued for my arrest. When I asked for a copy of the affidavit I was told that it would be delivered by a law enforcement agent. I don't know how much credence to place on this call.

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.  The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:

ABC News:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General:  http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh:  http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services:  http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, Christian Nicholas & Associates, CashNet, Financial Crime Prevention, National Crimes Division, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit, David Morgan & Assoicates, Impact Business Marketing and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

These scammers attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you."  Other trademark phrases include threatening the consumer with ridiculous phrases such as "If you don't pay then only God can help you" or "If you don't call me back then I can only wish you good luck."

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal for them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 )  There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-336-553-3965
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-909-6789
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.  The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:

ABC News:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General:  http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh:  http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services:  http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, Christian Nicholas & Associates, CashNet, Financial Crime Prevention, National Crimes Division, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit, David Morgan & Assoicates, Impact Business Marketing and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

These scammers attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you."  Other trademark phrases include threatening the consumer with ridiculous phrases such as "If you don't pay then only God can help you" or "If you don't call me back then I can only wish you good luck."

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal for them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 )  There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-336-553-3965
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-909-6789
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

I just got a call from a man, which it was really hard to hear him, but he told me that he is in the back office and is representing Cashnet.com.  That I have taken out a loan and have not paid it back.  He know my name, address and Bank name.  He really didn't want to answer my questions.  I asked him how much was the loan, he stated for $360.00 and that cashnet.com has deposited the funds into my account and I have not paid them back.  I asked him for my banking information, which of course he didnot answer, he just repeated himself that I have taken out a loan and have not paid it back.  I then asked him to send me proof via, email, fax or mail, he then repeated himself again.  I told him if he can't show me proof then he will get no money out of me.  I do know that I have not taken any loans or had anything put into my account, so I really wanted to see his proof.  He then repeated himself again.  So I repeated myself and then he hung up the phone.

I received a call from this number about half an hour ago threatening to arrest me and my teenage daughter for some unknown reason. The caller knew my address and the people in my household by full name. He had a think Indian accent and demanded my attorneys information or else I would be arrested at my place of employment the following day. They called several times and then they called a close friend of mine with the same nonsense. These calls were all made to my cell phone.

Does anyone know how to stop them from calling? They have all my personal information. SS#, address, phone #, etc. I didnt confirm anything and am still getting the phone calls! Can anything be done?

They called me at work too. They also had the last 4 of my SS#. How do they get this stuff. They were threatening me as well saying i owed them money and i was being sued and i was going to be served with papers by an officer. Totally crazy!!!!

I just recieved a call from 941-961-8518, they told me that it was importmant for me to call back at 81-451-4695 and his name was Brad.  Also said that there would be federal legal action taken against me.

Someone with a thick Indian accent called my work and said that there is an investigation against me and knew my name and the last 4 digits of my SS#. I did not give them any info but they said I would be arrested if I did not tell them what they needed to know. I never told them my name. I finally hung up on them because I kept telling them I could not understand what they were saying. They called right back and I didn't answer. When I tried to call their number back it said the Verizon number had been disconnected.

I received the same phone call demanding that I pay this debt and that I only had one day to pay it. When I began questioning the man on the phone who claime dto be "John Conner" (the terminator)who barely spoke english, he told me to shut up and that they wont call me anymore. Be advised it is a SCAM. question them and they will go away.

I received a call from a man who did not speak english very well, he claimed that he represented cashnet.com and that I had a debt with them and that I needed to send a letter of apology with my signature and pay the debt within 24 hours or they would "download a an affidacit in the court" This obviously is a scam, when I began to question them - they had no answers they just kept on telling me that I had to pay this debt todaY.
When I continued to question them they told me to Shut up, and then they hung up.

Harassing threatening to call attorney

My partner got a call today for me and the guy went as far as to say he was my "fiancee and we were getting married tomorrow." So my response to my partner was "Did you happen to tell him that I'm not yet divorced and that I'm a lesbian?"  She actually had the same people do the same thing to her a few months ago and we reported it to local authorities.  Guess we need to do that again.

This is a scam. I wrote to Sonic Cash (the ones they said I had a loan with) and they said:

"We're sorry to hear about the call you received.  There is a group of people who are calling from outside of the United States stating to be affiliated with Sonic Cash.  This group has no affiliation with our company, and you have no debt with them or us for that matter.  The tactics and threats they use, are to scare you into paying them,  which is an illegal tactic under the rules outlined in the F.D.C.P.A. (Fair Debt Collections Practices Act)  We ask that you report this phone call to Doug Zloto who is the Secret Service Agent from the Department of Homeland Security.  His phone number is 989-497-0580.  Again, we're sorry to hear you were contacted by these people, and please be assured they have no affiliation with our company.

Thank You
Sonic Cash
1-866-574-2274"

I left a message with Mr. Zloto. I suggest you do the same (do it quickly as you don't have alot of recording time). good luck.

Just received the same type of call on my cell phone.  I hung up the first time and he (John) called back and left a message stating the same things as below, "it's urgent, etc.  Thanks for the warning!

I am having the same problem. They are calling me about a loan from cashnetusa, that I had purchased in 2007. They had my email and my last four digits of my social security number and where I work and the name of my bank. The number they gave I called back and it was disconnected, they then called with another number and I answered and every time I asked something they hung up not being able to answer any questions. Said it was an attorney's office. They left messages telling me I was going to be arrested and was going to be picked up at my residence. I am worried.

I recieved the call this morning, I am seven months pregnant being told I will have the sherrifs at my door tomorrow morning to arrest me. When I told them I dont have outstanding debts to cashnet they said nothing, I said you would really arrest a 7month pregnant woman and they said they dont care if I am pregnant. Lucky they didnt send me into labor with a skyrocketing bloodpressure. These people neet to be caught. How the hell are they getting our info? I called Cashnet and they said they are recieving calls constantly from people that arent even customers saying they are being threatened by these guys and that they owe them money.

I received a phone call from 941 961 8518.  He said that his name is Roger Brine and that the moment I get this call I am to call 213-232-4395 or to have my attorney on record to call.  He speaks with an accent which sounded like he was from India.  He repeats the number twice and then ends by saying Dont disregard this call and call back. If you don't call me back then I can only wish you good luck.  It sounds like he is driving or something while rudely yelling into the phone.  It scared me since I had no clue who this could be.  I typed in the phone numbers and found that this is some type of scam.

All the same story for 213-232-4935.  There are more posts there.